truthseeker1969
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No answer to this one!
by truthseeker1969 inas many of you know my brother an elder was called on to sit in a "judicial committee" re-instatement.. the brother has in the past done all he can to prove he is repentant but this time the co was here and apparently had a few things to say to the cobe when they were discussing the process.
the co asked why the poor guy had four re-instatement hearings and why the co had received a letter from him detailing that he "did not think he could do anymore".. anyway, long story short, the co sat in the hearing and hey presto the brother was re-instated.
my brother and the co spoke with the brother and the co said that he had done well and was sorry that the process has taken so long and shook his hand.. now he mentioned the latest letter about confidentiality and said that the society is being hit left right and center with civil lawsuits and are scared as the have no way of defending them.
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Stopped Dead Again.
by truthseeker1969 inas many of you are aware my brother who is an elder, shared with me another "shut this down moment" in a jc.
a brother who was to go before another body of elders told them that since they had contacted his former congregation they had lost their ecclesiastical privelege and that information they had is now subject to the data protection law including records etc.
when he was told he could not take notes he told the elders the same that they had to abide by the same non scriptural mandate.. apparently it was enough to shut the proceedings down until they called the "mother ship" for instructions.. they were told not to proceed with anything at this time until they got back to the elders.. my brother who hates jc totally said that more and more they are finding people quoting the law to them and the elders are backing off, not sure about the us where they can do anything they please but in the uk the dpa has really messed things up for the society.
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Can anyone tell me?
by truthseeker1969 inoh snap sorry, got carried away!.
what book are they studying next at the thursday meeting and does anyone have a pdf of it?.
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news to me
by truthseeker1969 ini just heard this within the last day.. i had no clue that the society had a travel agancy within its offices!.
anyhoo, in the area i live they called numerous hotels for deals for the convention and the gm whom i know through friends told me that they play hardball in getting the maximum commission possible for refering people.
he said the average is about 10 to 15 percent of the room cost.
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too far gone
by truthseeker1969 ini was wondering if any elders on board or anyone for that matter has ever heard anyone within the organisation tell someone they are too far gone and could never change their lives and be re-instated?.
i asked my brother who is an elder and he told me he has never heard it and he does not think it is possible for someone to have gone to far to be "rescued".
your thoughts my learned friends.
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Did he say that?
by truthseeker1969 inwho can remember brother or sister "cock-up" who would look at a word and say the wrong thing.. example through the during the creation book brother tongue tied refered to the lack of need for multiple orgasms to bring life?.
or elder detailed who instead of saying i have started so i will finsh (a popular british tv saying) saying i have farted so i will sinnish?.
lets have a laugh at our best ones!.
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Nightmare
by truthseeker1969 inmy brother who is an elder in a european congregation told me this am that a judicial reinstatement was halted mid way when the brother there revealed he is now a lawyer (solicitor).
it wasn't in his congregation but one close and the elders did not want to proceed until they spoke to the branch office.. he doesn't have many details but does anyone know why they would suddenly stop?.
he did hear that the brother works with the justice department in the uk in an approved position (non political) and he does work for the court system.
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New generation
by truthseeker1969 inone of my friends (non baptized) overheard his father, an elder and cobe talking with two other elders re; "generation" and he openly stated that "the society has stirred a great deal of discontent with this' and that is has "people talking".. apparently on the last co visit the co said the society at one point was inundated with questions regarding it and especially the word 'evidently' and what scriptural "evidence" there was and that the elders were told to "speak kindly" when discussing it and ask them to rely on jehovah to reveal the matter and evidence.. he spoke with this father re the "reaching out" articles and it has been noted by the society that many young men are refusing to take the 'lead' as they are not seeing "joy' in "reaching out" and that the society needs more elders drastically.. i am wondering how long it will be before the society attempts to mark brothers for refusing to accept responsibility or making it an "offence' to not reach out in order to force people to do things in the congregation and when if ever they will change the generation thing.
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sin against the spirit?
by truthseeker1969 inso here is something that i have been thinking about.. witnesses are told not to run ahead of jehovah's chariot but to walk behind it waiting for truth to be dispensed.. the new generation thingy mabobber about this generation overlapping the other generation also known in the uk as 'the generation game and the constant trying to explain, is evidence to me that they ran ahead of the chariot.
if witnesses are thrown out for apostasy for attempting to or in some cases figuring out bible meaning then why has this not happened to the gb.. why is jehovah is a god of order, truth and power do they make a mockery of him by changing the neeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww lite.
is this not eidence that they ran ahead of the chariot?