Posts by NewWay

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You gotta LOVE this forum!

by Sirona in

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i love this forum.

at the moment, there are lots of people saying bad things about it.

i want to set the record straight.

Simon, I would like to thank you personally for making this forum possible. It takes dedication to keep an enterprise such as this going on a long term basis. This site has provided me with an outlet to express my feelings and view relating to the society, something not allowed inside the organisation of JWs.

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Anti-Evolutionists Wanted !!!!

by Francois in

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there is an evolution question bubbling up down the threads a little way, and it minded me to try to really get to the nub of the opposition to the technique.. i would like to pose very serious questions, and i hope they attracts serious, considered responses - once and for all.. why is it impossible, in the minds of anti-evolutionists, that god did indeed create us, the earth, the sun, and everything around us including the entire physical universe, and that evolution was his technique; evolution as a divine technique?

how do you know, how are you so certain that's not the case?

how would you explain your opposition to god if he told you personally that, yep, that's the way he did it alright?.

NewWay

Francois, I would just like to add that although 'science' may not have said 'we're right and you're wrong', they've pretty much made up their mind that that is the case. When was the last time we heard, 'Evolutionist believe that we evolved...'? Today, without exception, our adults and children alike are told, 'When we evolved...' So, 'science' has made up the world's mind for it and the only real question that remains is, 'In what way did we evolve?'

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Anti-Evolutionists Wanted !!!!

by Francois in

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there is an evolution question bubbling up down the threads a little way, and it minded me to try to really get to the nub of the opposition to the technique.. i would like to pose very serious questions, and i hope they attracts serious, considered responses - once and for all.. why is it impossible, in the minds of anti-evolutionists, that god did indeed create us, the earth, the sun, and everything around us including the entire physical universe, and that evolution was his technique; evolution as a divine technique?

how do you know, how are you so certain that's not the case?

how would you explain your opposition to god if he told you personally that, yep, that's the way he did it alright?.

NewWay

Francois, some interesting observations. Heres my 2 cents.

If one believes that Genesis, as we have it today, is infallably inspired and is to be taken literally, then one would have to reject evolution as it is presented to us today. Genesis states that male and female were created 'as is', not through some evolutionary process.

However, if I do not accept Genesis as literal truth, then yes I think it reasonable that God could have put creatures through a series of evolutionary stages. The question is: 'Did he choose to do so?'. If so, what is the purpose of there still being apes left on the earth if the purpose was to graduate to the most advanced form of life on earth?

More importantly, can it be proved by real evidence? If there is indeed 'overwhelming' evidence, then where is it? I haven't seen it. The evolutionists cause is not helped either by the falsification and resistance to examination of what fossils they have that they attribute to evolutionary-man. There is a very interesting book entitled, 'Buried Alive' by Jack Cuozzo, that examines a number of so-called fossil 'evidence' and the lengths to which some people will go to try to convince the public. Even the British Museum was implicated in cover-ups. Why would this be? I get the impression that to many evolutionist, Evolution is their religion which they are desperate to protect. To me, the religious faith of others they look down on is no less credible than their own faith.

Basically, I'm not convinced that we evolved because as yet I haven't seen any real evidence. Different dating methods may suggest quite ancient dates for fossils, but does that prove that 'ape-like' skulls, etc were evolutionary pre-cursors of humankind? Has it not occurred to evolutionists that 'ape-like' remains may actually be from extinct varieties of ape?

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A Newbie Introduction

by patricia in

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i am a "newbie" that has been "lurking" and commenting on a couple of posts over the last six months.

i was somewhat intimidated by some of the comments on the board so i didn't feel comfortable in introducing myself.

since simon seems to be dealing with some of the more "aggressive" posters i felt the time had come to introduce myself.

NewWay

Welcome Patricia!

Simply put, I live my life day by day content now to leave matters in God's hands. I have not lost my faith in Him because when I was an active JW I developed a personal relationship, like you. There are also times in my life when I believe our heavenly Father gave my family a 'helping hand'. When I got baptised, the intention was genuinely to dedicate my life to the service of God, not to an organisation. I've realised that service to God is not dependent on a piece of paper and cold-canvassing the local neighbourhood, but on displaying Christlike conduct towards those who come my way who have a need that I can fulfill whether spiritual or material. I've found that help can come from some quite unexpected quarters at times, so I try to keep an open mind and listen to what other people are saying. Don't forget that God knows his own and it is not for others to judge who does and who does not belong to him, although Jesus did say that 'by their fruits you will recognise them'. I no longer believe that he has any human 'representatives' on earth in the sense of a group of specially appointed people - like a new type of Governing Body - but rather I believe that individuals (not religous bodies) can work with us to support us spiritually. Those individuals are spread out like 'wheat among the weeds' and are not concentrated in any particular area of the world 'field'. Hopefully you will find at least some here to associate with who will prove to be like 'a hiding place from the wind'.

Kind regards.

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Why I Stopped Apologising For The WTS

by NewWay in

why i stopped apologising for the watchtower society - part 1. .

in response to requests for information on why i stopped being an apologist for the organisation, i have decided to write the following article.

what is written is not meant to attack the beliefs of jws, but rather to show why i personally came to the conclusion that i could no longer support the organisation.

NewWay

In one of my posts above, I stated: "I can accept that it could well have taken until 537 BCE before the first group of Jew returned to their homeland. So regardless of the actual length of the captivity of the Jews, as long as the Jews actually returned in 537 BCE, we still arrive at 1914 CE (i.e. 2520 years - Wow, its like riding a bicycle: you never forget!)."
Obviously one can fall off one's bike after not riding it for a while! Of course 537+1914-1 (no year zero) = 2450 years. However, 607+1914-1 = 2520. I humbly apologise for the mistake. I'm surprised no one pointed it out. Maybe folk were trying to be polite by not mentioning it.

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Alternative Definitions To WTS-Related Terms

by NewWay in

alternative definitions to wts-related words and terms .

* 'great crowd' - a large group of people who turned up too late to catch the bus to heaven.. .

* 'prophetic date' - a type of fruit that may look good on the outside, but which some people find leaves a bitter after-taste, and others find too hard to swallow.. .

NewWay

Good grief Farkel, you have been busy, its going to take me a while to read your post!

Welcome KB! Enjoyed reading your definitions.

MEMORIAL (2): Yearly event where most people say, "No" to the body of Christ.

Thanks SYN and OUTLAW. Of course it was all said in the best possible taste! Larc, some great definitions. Do you think we could publish a book and release it at the next District Assembly?!!!

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JWs @ My Door !!!

by Francois in

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my door!

can you imagine that?

don't they know i'm a filthy apostulater!

NewWay

Jim don't you think aiming straight for the heart with a gun would be a bit of conversation stopper?!!!

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Scriptural View Of Blood?

by NewWay in

below is a link to an extremely interesting set of correspondence between an elder and the wts regarding blood.

its quite long, so if you really haven't the time to wade through all the letters, then just read last few letters.. .

http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/article?site=wo&date=20020123&category=jwandmedicine2&artno=201220009&ref=ar'%20url-frame='_blank

NewWay

Below is a link to an extremely interesting set of correspondence between an elder and the WTS regarding blood. Its quite long, so if you really haven't the time to wade through all the letters, then just read last few letters. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Site=WO&Date=20020123&Category=JWANDMEDICINE2&ArtNo=201220009&Ref=AR'%20URL-Frame='_blank

If this link is not 'clickable' then go to www.freeminds.org and look for the link under the title:

"Secret Letters Of The Watchtower Society"

Tell us what you think.

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