Think of what your motives were....... no need for guilt or self punishment.
You are one of the rare few that leave, your Grandad would be so proud!
i'm just so sad and i'm so angry at myself for believing and living a lie.
i hurt so many people in my family by becoming a jw....why didn't i listen to my sweet grandfather when he cried and begged me not to become a jw...i truly thought it was the truth...my grandfather cried...he was so hurt....my bible study teacher told me that satan would test me and my grandfather's pleas were my first test...he's gone now...years before i left the religion....i so wish that i could tell him that i am sorry and how very much i loved him...
Think of what your motives were....... no need for guilt or self punishment.
You are one of the rare few that leave, your Grandad would be so proud!
the jehovah's witnesses believe that only the father is lord god, however by searching the scriptures we can identify that there are more than one person in the godhead, and the lord jesus as well as the holy spirit are lord.. for those who are interested in learning, feel free to watch this new video..
Explaining how three gods can be one..... it will end one of two ways.
1. A silly analogy.... "Water can be a liquid, gas or a solid and god can be god, man and spirit." The resson an analogy is reauired, not becaue the listener is intellectually challenged and requires help, but the point being made is so illogical, irrational and unproven an analogy is required to distract away from the original issue. Instead of talking about how a god can be three figures, the converstaion goes to how water can be in three states .... it's irrelevant and deceitful, it's amateur 'slight of hand' at it's most unimpressive.
2. State ... "As humans we don't have capacity to understand the trinity!" .... well STOP pretending you understand it then. STOP 'teaching' other people something that you don't and can't understand. STOP pretending you have any evidence, logic or rationale on your side.
Let's not even get into how you can be sure that the bronze age writings from ancient sheep herders and mystics are reliable, wheras all other contemporary writings or modern day science is not.
Have your faith, enjoy it, let it enrich your life.... maybe trying to preach to people largely attempting to leave a cult, is a little unsavoury however.
i mean, come on.
if they call themselves the "true", then why are most kingdom halls not as attractive as churches and dont do any better?.
They are purposefully generic so as to be sold with ease.
when i post i try to imagine that i am at a social gathering or sometimes in someone's house as a dinner guest.
that way it is easier to follow the community guidelines and posting rules set out on the site at the bottom of the page.
i wouldn't want to make a fool of myself in public.
I'm an ex-jw and I love politics, but I find it out of place here.
I imagine the JW's swinging by, lurking, pondering ......seeing all the "lack of harmony" from their perspective and running back to the JW's.
This forum has definitely changed. We all owe Simon and Angharad much for its existence, though I do wonder how I would have felt coming to a site with such polarising political voews when searching for a soucre of TATT.
The polarisation is just a reflection of society today, we all seek our confirmation bias and echo chambers.
i happened to be in my old town last week, i decided to drive past my old kh in n.wales,.
to my suprise there was a large 'for sale' sign hanging off it!.
this is a semi-remote area with the nearest other kh's a good 30 mins in every direction.
I happened to be in my old town last week, I decided to drive past my old KH in N.Wales,
To my suprise there was a large 'For Sale' sign hanging off it!
This is a semi-remote area with the nearest other KH's a good 30 mins in every direction. The KH was built with and renovated via local funds and local efforts (including mine).
I looked in the local paper and saw that another nearby hall had been sold too and another auctioned off, all in recent years.
Looks like the congs are being squished together globally.
Money grab indeed 💰!
i'm not sure where to put this under, but i got a message from my anti-virus service.
they were informing me that facebook left everyone's password open for any employee of facebook to see.
they strongly recommended people to change their password to their facebook account.
Apologies, however.....
"Facebook said that it had found no evidence of abuse and that it would begin alerting millions of its users and thousands of Instagram users about the issue. The company said it would not require people to reset their passwords."
i'm not sure where to put this under, but i got a message from my anti-virus service.
they were informing me that facebook left everyone's password open for any employee of facebook to see.
they strongly recommended people to change their password to their facebook account.
Just think for a second.........
Someone is trying to scam you.
ignore it.
climate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
It seems quite odd to me, to have a scientific question of whether man made contributions to CO2 contribute to climate change..... and to offer the option of skeptic or believer. Especially poignant on an ex religious site.
i very skeptically believe human pollution is likely contributing to climate change and that it is indefensible to not try and reduce that possible contribution, for our childrens sake.
It takes decades to become an expert in this field, armchair opinions are exactly that and dangerous no matter which side they stand by.
By far the majority of experts are in agreement that it it taking place, dangerous and that time is of the essence. That will do for me.
Non expert opinion has already seen me lose nearly three decades to a cult.
i was a jw in the 80’s-2000’s and probably saw the peak of uk attendance.. anecdotally, many here appear to have a view that attendance has reduced significantly.
our kh would have around 90-110 for a meeting, at worst maybe 75 and the highest was 144 (for memorial lol).. small circuit assembly had about 1000 people and district had about 8-12000. .
i know kh’s and circuits/districts have variance, however in the uk i attended many of these various gatherings and the numbers above tended to be reasonably average.
I was a JW in the 80’s-2000’s and probably saw the peak of UK attendance.
Anecdotally, many here appear to have a view that attendance has reduced significantly.
Our KH would have around 90-110 for a meeting, at worst maybe 75 and the highest was 144 (for memorial lol).
Small circuit assembly had about 1000 people and district had about 8-12000.
I know KH’s and circuits/districts have variance, however in the UK I attended many of these various gatherings and the numbers above tended to be reasonably average.
So what kind of numbers are you seeing today? Are there any actual attendance figures available anywhere?
snare
again cleaning/organizing my huge collection of jws books, i happened to go now pick up the 1990 awake and stumbled on this march 22, 1990 page 27. .
it is true that one cannot back out of a dedication to god.
(compare ecclesiastes 5:4.
Don't worry, you didnt't.
It's very easy to undedicate yourself from a book publishing, fascist organisation though!