*Lost* makes some very good points. I was the same way. I was literally shaking and short of breath when I opened Crises of Conscience for the first time.
When FREEDOM makes you nervous.......you are in a cult
it is not a cult!!!
if you weren't mesmerized by the internet since ya know it never lies!
read the bible how do they go against it.
*Lost* makes some very good points. I was the same way. I was literally shaking and short of breath when I opened Crises of Conscience for the first time.
When FREEDOM makes you nervous.......you are in a cult
making people cling to the organization more.
when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.
my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .
"When I was in I never really paid attention to that sort of stuff or tried to understand it because it was too loopy and I figured it didn't have much relevance to my day to day life. I wonder how many others there are who just go, "Meh, whatever."
Julia - I believe the MAJORITY feel that way. There are so many loops and stretches that the average JW just basically says "wow.....I don't understand. Good thing the FDS does though! And it sure is good that God isn't going to judge me based on MY understanding, but rather, how closely I follow the direction of the organization."
making people cling to the organization more.
when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.
my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .
"My wife is so close to saying screw this but she then gets scared... its so funny."
She is captive to the concept that somehow someway even through lies, cover ups, mistakes etc.......this is STILL GOD's ORGANIZATION. Has she read Don Cameron's book "Captives of a Concept" yet? Until she can realize that there is no way God could have chosen them in 1919......she will remain in fear.
making people cling to the organization more.
when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.
my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .
"My mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by Jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight...
ANother person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move."
OMG. The CULT SPEAK is awful! True JWs cannot even speak without sounding like a controlled puppet!
I think this is exactly as many predicted. I believe this was a calculated move by the GB. I think they know this will weed out the thinkers, thus causing them to lose a scant percentage of their base followers but not enough to cripple them financially. It also allows them to grip the remaining flock even tighter since the remaining flock is now willingly putting 100% trust in 8 men.
i wonder if anyone has ever been disfellowshipped just for partaking.
of course they would eventually tag it as apostacy, but the real reason would stand - and could get the attention of local media.. .
the newsies tend to shy away from doctrinal entanglements, but the idea of a "christian" church disfellowshipping one of their own for taking the sacrament - surely that would raise someones eyebrow.
"I have a friend who partakes at home after the official KH Memorial because he caught too much flack about thinking he was of the "annointed". I've read of several on here who do the same. Perhaps this is more common than you might imagine.
Doc"
When you have to hold your own secret worship sessions at home because your church (or in this case kingdom hall) isn't quite cutting it.....isn't it time you re-visit your beliefs and/or religion?
back when we were still active in the cong.
we became friends with a young couple with 2 small kids.
they were newly baptized and wanting a better future for their kids.
"One I heard in Pioneer school referring to making return visits on people that will never come in the truth, You go and place a magazine, then you go back and place a book, then go back and have some nice conversations all the while you think your sawing off a little bit of the goat's horns but in reality you've got nothing but a 'bloody goat' so quit wasting your time with bloody goats!"
Wow. How incredibly touching. You must have felt an overwhelming amount of holy spirit in the room after that rhetoric.
another story of the love in the christian congregation of jehovah witnesses!.
elder squidbilly was gunning for a brother who screwed up with his real estate portfolio in a bad way.
squid-billy made the case this brother had managed his holding in a unchristian and greedy way, so he appealed to the body to remove him for theft!
All you have to do is kiss up to the right people at the right time.
it was yesterday morning and hubby and i were having a huge sleep in.
it was just after ten, and with me being a bit flu-ey i was quite capable of staying in bed longer.
hubby was feeling it too, and we were pleasantly drifting in and out to the sounds of birds.. then suddenly, cloomp, cloomp, cloomp up the front stairs, then "rap-rap-rap" on the front screen door, that rapid-fire, strong knock of the practiced door-knocker.
I agree with Satanus. There ARE some good hearted COs and elders out there. But make no mistake. They are company men. The need to protect the organization pervades even the most sincere of hearts.
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i felt stunned.
i felt betrayed.. just lois.
scared. then angry
Crazyguy - You have a PM