This has got to the the stupidest post to date. KFB? What next? AARP? AAA? How about KFC? You know the secret recipe could have satanic overtones. AJW you need a life if all you can do is waste your time with such insipid drivel.
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Is This A MINI-SCANDAL In Kentucky?
by AngryXJW inearlier today, i spoke on the telephone with a jw who will sometimes listen to "anti" info, but typically regurgitates the typical "party-line" responses.__________ .
however, today, the situation was reversed.
it seems that this jw was "slightly stumbled" at the da held in louisville, kentucky back in late june.________.
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Bethelite speakers get Free rooms w/ hot tub
by Cappuccino OC ini was just given the new book from the convention by a neighbor of mine and i was remembering that when i was in high school 85-89, we met the bethelite brother who was giving the special talk at our district assembly.
most of the families from my congregation commuted, 20 miles, to the assembly in fresno, ca.
a local elder stayed with his family in the hotel across the selland arena, convention.
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COME ON PEOPLE!
An old man invites several young boys to his room to go hot tubbing???? No other adults invited??? You think nothing to it??? Parents should have been invited or other adults. It is highly suspect, especially the fact they were going into a hot tub together. What if this guy was a Catholic priest? Wouldn't it appear just a little odd?
The old guy was getting a chubby and maybe more...
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The elder at my door today........omg
by LyinEyes inok, bear with me, i am a little shook up.
most everyone knows we just left town one day to work, and never went back to the kingdom hall.
that was over a year ago.
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Jehovah blesses Serena-Craps on Venus
by messenger inhttp://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4914699 .
serena seizes crown and thanks god .
by tom whitehead, pa news .
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http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4914699
Serena Seizes Crown and Thanks God
By Tom Whitehead, PA News
Wimbledon champion Serena Williams tonight said she was blessed by God after seizing tenniss most prestigious crown.
The 20-year-old outclassed her 22-year-old sister, Venus, to take the title in a power-hitting final on Centre Court earlier today.
It was the first Wimbledon final between sisters since the first ever womens clash in 1884 when Briton Maud Watson beat her sibling Lilian two sets to one.
And next door on Court One, Argentinian David Nalbandian smashed the record books to reach tomorrows mens final against world number one Lleyton Hewitt.
In a glory run that has stunned the tennis world, the 20-year-old South American outsider has reached the final on his debut senior visit to Wimbledon.
He is the first to complete such a feat and is also the first Argentinian in a Wimbledon final.
When the number 28 seed steps on to Centre Court tomorrow it will be his first time on the hallowed turf.
He should have played there in yesterdays semi-final but had to switch to Court One because rain delays had caused a backlog of matches.
But today was Serenas day as the new womens world number one showed why she is top, beating her sister 7-6, 6-3.
Serena said after the match: Im a Jehovahs Witness. Obviously we believe in God and the Bible.
Without Him, I wouldnt be here right now. I really thank Him for everything. Ive been blessed really.
Serena admitted Wimbledon was the title she wanted more than anything and thanked her parents, Oracene and Richard, for their support.
She said: My dad always said that one day we would play in the finals at Wimbledon and here we are 10, 15 years later. Its really amazing if you think about it.
My dad, and my mom, its hard to get one champion, but now he has two.
Todays match was the ninth time the sisters have met in a top tournament with Venus just ahead of her younger competitor five wins to four.
Serenas victory ended Venuss hope of becoming the first black woman to win a hat-trick of Wimbledon titles.
American flags were few and far between and most onlookers would have struggled to know the nationality of either player if they relied on the crowd.
The scenes were a far cry from many of the previous matches witnessed over the Wimbledon fortnight, especially during Tim Henmans clashes and his ever present Henmania crowd.
Asked if she was disappointed at losing, Venus said: Well obviously, a Grand Slam this is where it is at and especially at Wimbledon, this is where it all started.
At least, I know, that sometimes I can look at the trophy.
Venus also revealed she gave her sister advice on how to curtsey to royalty during the trophy presentation, which was carried out by the Duke of Kent and his sister Princess Alexandra.
All eyes in SW19 will now focus on tomorrows mens final between Nalbandian and Hewitt, the man who dramatically ended Henmans dreams of Wimbledon glory in the semi-finals.
And the two players could not be further apart in their careers with Nalbandian earning less than 400,000 so far while Hewitt has amassed millions and already won the US Open.
The Argentinian earned his spot after beating Belgiums Xavier Malisse in a five set thriller, 7-6, 6-4, 1-6, 2-6, 6-2.
Nalbandian said: I think this is the best week of my life. This is very great for me. For me, this is a dream.
Asked if he was worried about his first Centre Court appearance, the Argentinian said: No, I never played on Court One, so its the same.
Last year Croat Goran Ivanisevic stunned the tennis world when he won the Wimbledon title after entering the tournament as a wildcard.
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New Zealand Death not due to underwear
by messenger inthursday june 13, 2002
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storyprint.cfm?storyid=2046387 .
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Thursday June 13, 2002 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storyprint.cfm?storyID=2046387
Underwear prank before lost teenager died in bush
13.06.2002 -A prank involving women's underwear had not embarrassed 14-year-old Elon Oved into wandering off and getting lost in the bush, his tramping companions told the Coroner's Court in Westport yesterday.
Elon's body was found near the Alfred River, at Springs Junction, on February 10, 10 weeks after he got lost during an overnight tramp to Lake Daniells.
He was one of 11 members of the Halswell Jehovah's Witnesses who headed into the area on December 1 last year.
The death of the teenager has divided the group of formerly close friends and the police warned them yesterday against arguing in the courthouse.
The court heard that as a prank on a church elder and "prude", one of the group stashed women's underwear in his pack and photographed one of the boys wearing a bra when they arrived at the lake hut.
Others were photographed, without their knowledge, while urinating.
The photographer, Erik Sowman, said it was just a lark and everyone, including Elon, "thought it was a great joke".
But Elon's father, Rami Oved, suggested that it had so embarrassed his son that when he went to change out of his wet clothes, he was forced further into the bush because he was afraid of being photographed.
Coroner Peter Roselli was told how Elon and the two other teenagers in the party spent the afternoon frolicking in an inflatable dingy on the lake.
They had a break in the hut mid-afternoon, when the underwear incident took place, and then returned to the lake until about 6pm.
Several witnesses said Elon was laughing and having fun the whole time. His close friend, Phillip Mehrtens, 15, said he showed no signs of distress after the underwear incident.
When the trio arrived back at the hut, Elon said he would change in the outside toilet because the hut was too crowded.
Ray Oved, 17, said the last time he saw his brother he was happy, "joking and excited because he had just seen an eel".
But he said Elon had acted strangely when he said he was going to get changed and he "sensed" he was not happy.
When he did not return after five minutes, two of the youngsters sneaked over to the toilet to give him a fright but he was not there.
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Sister Venus Williams
by messenger inhttp://observer.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,727737,00.html.
what planet is she on?
she was a prodigy who was trained by her father, but that's where the likeness to the other focused, driven champions ends.
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What planet is she on?
She was a prodigy who was trained by her father, but that's where the likeness to the other focused, driven champions ends. This one likes doughnuts, admits she can be lazy and enjoys teasing interviewers.
Tim Adams
Sunday June 9, 2002Venus Williams lounges, all arms and legs, in the corner of the bar in a Hamburg hotel. She's telling me about her competitive debut on a tennis court. It all started, she says, in her sleepy, giggly way, back when she was three and a half years old, and her Daddy took her down to the nearest club in Los Angeles, and organised a game for her against the pro. She had a cut-down racket, and was a bit shy at first, but soon she was 'serving overarm, aces and everything, hitting forehands down the line'.
I'm leaning forward a little while she recounts the detail of this story, imagining the toddler with the corn-row hair, swinging her modified racket for all she was worth, already refusing to take a step back for anyone, her Daddy urging her on. 'And how did you do?' I wonder.'I was used to beating guys by then, so I beat this guy, too...' she says, her eyes wide and her mouth breaking into its spectacular grin. 'Straight sets.'
I'm near the edge of my seat by now. 'Really?' I say, 'You beat him? When you were three?'
She pauses a beat, then looks at me.
'Nahhhh!' she says, and throws back her head, laughing hugely. 'Course not!'
There are not too many prodigies who can make fun of the idea of their genius, but Venus Williams can't take any of her charmed life quite seriously. When she first came on to the tennis circuit, her easy self-assurance was interpreted as arrogance; tour players who had been told all their life that tennis was a complicated grind where only those who focused, focused and focused would succeed, were unnerved by the gangly teenager in the locker room, laughing about her laziness, about how she found it hard to concentrate on practice. She was frozen out for a long time, dismissed with her younger sister, Serena, as disrespectful, uppity, but she did not care about that too much.
In retrospect, it seems that Williams, now the world's leading player as she and her family always suggested she would be, was not so much boasting about her natural talent, rather - like a young Muhammad Ali - just excitedly letting the world in on her great secret. There was an idea that women's tennis would, after Navratilova and her pumped-up forearms, be dominated by those who worked the hardest, started the youngest and practised the longest; but there had always been a sense in the Williams family of the importance of doing things a little differently.
Venus has inherited much of her attitude from her father and coach, Richard, though she can laugh languidly about him, too. This is a man whose pride at seeing his daughters fulfil the wild, sponsorship-friendly prophecies he made for them as juniors, has been matched only by his subsequent delight in winding up the white male tennis establishment in general, and its journalists in particular. For a while, his telephone carried the following answer machine message: 'Hi, I'm Richard Williams. There are those who want to ask me what I think of inter-marriage. Anyone that's marrying outside of this race that's black should be hung by their necks until sundown. Please leave a message after the tone...'
Like many tennis dads - Mike Agassi, Stefano Capriati - Richard Williams had plotted Venus and Serena's success ante-natally. The legend has it that while watching a satellite women's tennis tournament in the late Seventies, Williams, the son of a sharecropper from the Deep South, was amazed at the prize money - more than he earned in a year running a security firm - and wondered how he might tap into it. He had three daughters, but he believed they were already too old to turn into champions, and his wife, Oracene (known as 'Brandi'), was not eager to have any more. Williams's solution, by his own account, was to sabotage her contraceptive pills and, in 1980, Venus was born. Two years later his wife gave birth to Serena.
Like all Williams's claims, this family lore is to be taken not entirely in earnest - but if he planned Grand Slam winners from conception, it is really there that the comparisons with most of the more driven sporting parents end. Rather than sending Venus and Serena to a hothouse academy or travelling with them on the junior circuit, he put his youngest daughters on a training programme of his own devising, taking them out every day on the municipal courts in the rough and ready borough of Compton in Los Angeles.
His story goes that while the girls were perfecting their topspin, they were witnesses to drive-by gang shootings (Venus herself suggests that on one occasion she and her sister had to 'dive for cover when bullets started flying'). Her father claims that he made a deal with the gangs in the neighbourhood to let his daughters - his 'ghetto Cinderellas' - practise in relative peace, because the 'lily white world of tennis' needed to be shaken up a bit.
In many ways the purpose of this mythology has long been served - since the Williams sisters' Grand Slam wins the lily white world of tennis will perhaps never be quite the same again - and these days Venus seems keen to play down the tales from the 'hood. Ask her now about the character of her growing up and she says only that 'you just take the childhood you're given, right? You don't question it! We were all just so happy!'
I wonder at one point if there were drug casualties around among her friends?
'I was 10 years old,' she says. 'I wasn't in the drugs scene. I guess some kids around me had to grow up quickly, had all those problems. But I wasn't one of those kids, or around those kids, not at all.'
Still, when I ask her if she thinks she will ever regret not having a 'normal' childhood (as Agassi and Capriati have done over the years) she puts her head in her hands and suddenly exclaims: 'But our Mom was so cruel! I'm always telling her that! We were so deprived!'
In what way exactly?
Her face crumbles in mock-despair. 'I can't say,' she says.
Go on...
'Well, you know most kids in their lunch boxes have little happy juices and stuff - we didn't get juices, we got milk! It ruined my childhood, you know. All my friends got Captain Crunch cereal or Froot Loops, and we had to have Puff Wheat...'
And she's rocking back laughing again. 'So cruel! No Froot Loops! Of course, when I confront her Mom makes excuses - she didn't want us to have sugar because we were already all bouncing off the walls - but that's no good to me now! The damage is done!'
Venus is here in Hamburg with her mother, and her dog, Bobby, a Yorkshire terrier (he travels everywhere with her, she says, 'except England, or any of England's old colonies. You guys really left your mark on the world...') Her parents divide their time between their daughters' matches, and both still spend a lot of time on court with them, advising and coaching.
When Venus first came on the tour, Brandi, like her husband and children a Jehovah's Witness, was keen to warn her of the dangers she might face. 'They are in the locker room talking with these older women - undressed - who are lesbians,' she once explained. 'The kids get caught up in something and think "Maybe that's really me" when it's not. So, yeah, I taught Venus and Serena about that...'
In describing the differences between her daughters, Brandi has been apt to say that Serena has always had to work hard for her success, but that everything has always come easy to Venus, whether it was at school or on the tennis court.
When I put this description to Venus she smiles at the suggestion, and says a little half-heartedly, 'I feel I've always worked pretty hard. I'm no flash in the pan, you know. I think I'm demonstrating some kind of longstanding commitment...'
And then she concedes her mother maybe has a point: 'I guess I always knew I'd be a champ. That's what I was told, and at that age that's what you believe...' She smiles shyly, stretches out her legs still further, giggles some more to herself. 'You know I was always really very, very, very good. Serena, on the other hand, wasn't very good at all. She was small, really slim and the racket was way too big for her. Hopeless. Believe it or not she used to lob and slice. That was her game.' She thinks of the aggressive power her little sister now possesses, shakes her head. 'She's moved on from there. She started playing especially good tennis at around 15, which was soon enough - I mean she won the US Open two years later - but still it was quite late compared to me. You know,' she says, 'I guess I was always Venus...'
Venus seems to have a very clear idea of who Venus is, and where Venus came from, and where Venus is going - so much so that she often talks about herself in the third person, or at least about that version of herself that is a product or a phenomenon. She seems amused by many of the trials this Venus has to go through, and by some of the nonsense that surrounds her role as the world's most bankable player. Later in the day I see her on top of a crane in the city centre with the tournament organiser, a portly German gentleman, signing a billboard of herself, cheek to cheek with a gigantic image of her own backside, and unable to stop giggling. I begin to see how her irony might keep her sane.
Some of this distance comes from her religious faith. Or at least, she says, that is certainly why she's as laid back as she is. 'I know for sure that all this is not the only thing in life,' she suggests. 'I know it's not the most important thing for me to win the most Grand Slams and be remembered in this world. I certainly don't have to win little tournaments here, there and everywhere, I don't have to win at all,' she says, before remembering herself and adding: 'Although I do want to.'
Her attitude to competition is also perhaps a product of her father's prescient judgment in not letting his daughters really play competitively until they were late into their teens. While he had always been quick to tell anyone that would listen, and many that wouldn't, of his girls' great prowess, (Venus had already signed six-figure endorsement deals with Reebok when she was 10) Richard Williams did not put them up against the best of their peers as they were growing up, didn't think it right that girls should have to experience that kind of competitive pressure. 'Don't get too tied up in this,' he claims to have told Venus in an attempt to limit her time on the practice court, 'or you'll be like the rest of them. You'll be a dummy and a fool.'
Some coaches told him he was throwing away their chances with this attitude, but when Venus eventually joined the circuit full time at 17, with good exam grades behind her, and ambitions to learn Chinese and play the guitar, she won the first tournament she entered. Her father, of course, sat in the stands holding a placard that read: 'I told you so.'
Martina Hingis, who is exactly Venus's contemporary, had already won more than 100 professional matches at the same age and the strain of that early success seems now to have caught up with her body. Hingis's feet and ankles and knees have suffered the shocks of the relentless schedule, and she is already contemplating retirement at 22. Jennifer Capriati (Venus's greatest rival in the last year) struggled with different demons before getting her head together, and the stories of Carling Bassett and Andrea Jaeger should be admonitory.
In contrast, Venus seems possessed of a kind of balance that perhaps comes from being allowed to grow into her extraordinary body at her own pace. She also has no sense of yet having fulfilled a fraction of her potential - she has four Grand Slam victories, two at Wimbledon, two at the US Open, and it is hard not to see her achieving many more.
Her father once suggested - and he has suggested many, many things - that he wanted her to be out of tennis by the time she was 25, ('By 26, she can graduate college and then start setting her businesses up. By 30, 31 she'll be set, and by 35 she can give me a grandchild.') but she does not see much prospect of that. 'That's just Dad,' she says, rolling her eyes slightly. 'No, I intend on playing for a while. It's getting easier I think. A forehand crosscourt, backhand down the line, a couple of aces. Game. This life's not so complicated...'
I wonder how much of her motivation she still derives from being a black player at the top of a still overwhelmingly white sport. She says that though she 'never forgets she is a black player on court, and it would be hard to think otherwise,' she doesn't really believe that fact gives her extra motivation.
Over the years, she has been smart, gracious, enough to let others, notably her father, of course - address this subject for her. (When he used to sit in on her original interviews and press conferences Richard Williams would routinely preface them with the words: 'Now, don't be intimidated by us. We won't hurt you.') Her mother, too, was less circumspect. 'They don't even look at her,' Brandi Williams said of Venus, when she first joined the tour. 'I think they're afraid of her. They want her to be their Stepin Fetchit.'
Venus says simply now that she's never experienced any racism in tennis, and smiles brightly. The obvious comparison in this respect, and in many others, is with Tiger Woods. Is she driven by a sense of history, like Woods, a desire to take the sport to another level?
She shakes her head a little wearily at the thought, which seems to sound far too much like hard work. 'Nah, not really,' she says, quietly. 'My ambition is to enjoy my life and to do exactly what I want to do...' And then a little more determinedly: 'And I'll do that. I will be free.'
Some of this independence has led Venus into trouble over the past few years. In the same way that they protested against the rigours of the junior tour by not playing it, Venus and her sister have also been criticised for picking and choosing their matches, not perhaps fulfilling all their ludicrous tournament commitments.
Venus says she has no trouble getting psyched up for nothing events like the one in Hamburg, and it is where she played some of the best tennis of her life last year, but you get the sense she believes it is a necessary evil rather than something to get overly excited about. Tellingly, Serena is not here, and the sisters let their schedules ensure these days that they only meet on the biggest stages. When Venus pulled out of a semi-final against her sister in Indian Wells last year, blaming a mystery injury, Serena was booed through the final against Kim Clijsters, and there was much agonising in the press box.
She remains philosophical about this 'problem', saying only that they try to keep apart as much as they can in smaller events. Venus leads the series 4-1, including a crushing straight sets win in the US Open final last year. Will there be special pressures on their matches after that?
'Well,' she says, 'Serena's always real tough you know. I just hope she gives me a second serve to hit every now and then when we play.'
Do they worry if they play too often it might get in the way of their special relationship?
'No,' she says, 'that would be idiotic, and just being the big sister I would never let that happen. If we argued about it once we got off court, she'd shake me or we'd have a hug or whatever. It would never get personal.'
Does she still feel she has to look out for her sister on the tour?
'I think in the beginning she thought she was me,' Venus says smiling, 'But in the last couple of years - she's 20 now! Little Serena, all grown up! - she's realised that she's not me. She's pretty much an extrovert character and I'm an introvert. She likes to go out, party, make friends. Whereas me I like being at home, hanging out with Bobby, reading books,'
Venus was widely criticised, too, for missing a few events after 11 September. Her rival Lindsay Davenport suggested that Venus had 'lied' about an injury she had in order to miss an event. Talking about it now, it seems that Davenport perhaps had a point, though Venus will not be specific. 'It was a difficult time,' she says. 'I cancelled a couple of things because I didn't want to go, I guess. I wanted to be at home.'
How did she feel about being called a liar?
'I must have forgotten about that, I guess,' she says, smiling faintly.
Does any of that kind of animosity come out in the locker room?
'No. If I had to confront someone I suppose I would. But then I'm not so bothered what anyone else thinks.'
Venus is quite aware that the tour, and perhaps the US tour in particular needs her, a little bit more than she needs it. Since the retirement of Steffi Graf and with the demise of any real challenge from the poster girl, Anna Kournikova, Williams is the one whom everyone wants to see. I wonder if the money that attends this position has come to seem absurd to a girl who grew up with a five-dollar allowance - which she blew on secret doughnuts and ice cream.
'Not really absurd,' she says, enjoying the idea. 'I mean I guess there's always going to be jobs that pay more than others, and I suppose I have one of those...'
I suggest this is perhaps a slight understatement, given that she earned $10 million last year from prize money and endorsements (even more than Kournikova).
She giggles. 'I'm just blessed, I guess.' And then in her best mock hand-wringing tones. 'If I didn't play tennis I don't know where I'd be. I don't know if I'd be in trouble or fighting or in college, getting thin on noodles and rice - I'd be thrilled about that - or maybe I wouldn't have gone to college. I would be faced with so many decisions!'
Her wealth must bring its own decisions: what does she do with it all?
She says, of course, she does a lot of shopping - 'I shop very well' - gives some to charity and has along the way become something of a connoisseur of begging letters.
'Though these days I don't open my mail any more unless I'm expecting something. Still I get all these weird letters! One from a guy in South Africa recently who sent me a letter proposing that I regularly sent him a few thousand dollars and in return he would send me more letters. I'm not sure about that deal! My favourite was from a lady who wrote me saying, "My name is so and so and I have seven children to support, and what's more I am a clown." And she sent a picture of herself in a clown suit. I loved that letter,' she grins. 'I didn't send any money. But still I loved the letter.'
In between tournaments she's doing her correspondence course in interior design at the London Guildhall. 'I'm going to have my diploma soon,' she says brightly. 'Once you take an interest, you're eyes kind of open up to interiors you know.'
She's fixing up her own place?
'Of course!'
We gaze round the lobby of the Intercontinental Hotel Hamburg, with its mock rococo flourishes and burnished wood fittings.
What would she change about this?
'I think it's beautiful just the way it is,' she says.
Williams does not really moan too much about the price of fame. When I ask how it has been to do her growing up in public, she laughs and says she's not grown up yet. She's a bit wary of the British press since one tabloid reporter staked out her home before Wimbledon last year, kept trying to get into her house - and probably not, she supposes, to write an interiors piece - but mostly, she says, she can hold on to a private life of sorts.
Does she find that who she is gets in the way of relationships?
She smiles some more. 'I suppose it might if I was looking for one, but I mean I'm not really on the market right now. I'm only 21, I wouldn't say I was especially desperate to get that ring on my finger. When I'm 40, maybe, and it still hasn't happened perhaps I'll be wondering what's going on, but I'm OK for now...' In this, and all things, it seems, she's still happy enough to listen to the advice of her parents.
I wonder if she had been looking forward to dancing with her fellow champion Goran Ivanisevic at last year's Wimbledon Ball. 'Yeah,' she says, 'but I didn't have a dress. I mean I thought that I might have to go to the ball so I'd bought this dress. A shirt dress, strapless, bright red, you know, quite short. A lovely dress. But when I put it on my Mom said, all concerned, you know, "Haven't you got anything else?" And after that of course I couldn't wear it. So I just wore... whatever. And anyway I think that they cancelled the dancing, when it got to be my turn...'
Does she see a time when she will want to break free of that family involvement in her life, doesn't she ever feel it stifling?
'No!' she says, firmly. 'I love it! When we all get together, us five girls, Mom and Dad, we have such a jolly time, as you say in London.'
And if they clash, all these formidable forces, who tends to get the last word?
'I guess we all do,' she says. 'Or at least,' and this sounds much more like it, 'we all have the last laugh.'
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Adultery Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses Worries Court
by messenger inhttp://allafrica.com/stories/printable/200206070598.html.
adultery amongst jehovah's witnesses worries court .
the post (lusaka) .
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Adultery Amongst Jehovah's Witnesses Worries Court
The Post (Lusaka)
NEWS
June 7, 2002
Posted to the web June 7, 2002By Noel Sichalwe
WHY should Jehovah's Witnesses be filled with adulterous people and yet they teach God's word in depth, wondered Lusaka Boma local court presiding justice Sainet Chitambo as he fined a Jehovah's Witness K500, 000 for defamation of character.
Justice Chitambo said it was wrong for people who professed to be serious Christians to be involving themselves in scandals that discredited them. He said this when he fined Ng'andu Chola, 25 of Kanyama compound for defaming the character of Joyce Mbewe of the same area by alleging she had a boyfriend even when she was married.
Mbewe told the court she operated a salon at the Soweto market and used to woke up early to clean the shop to prepare for a day's work. She said one day Chola who also owned a salon at the same market accused her of having a boyfriend and reported it to Mbewe's husband.
"After reporting to my husband that I had a boyfriend, my marriage was on rocks. My husband chased me from home because of her false allegations. I am very surprised at what Chola has done to me and I do not even know what her motive is because we are all Jehovah's witnesses and she has now destroyed my marriage," she said. Mbewe said she later took Chola to the community elders to resolve the problem where she stressed Mbewe had a boy-friend she was hiding from her husband.
In her defence, Chola said Mbewe was her friend for a long time and were working together in the same business of running saloons. Chola said one day, Mbewe went crying to her saying her husband had refused to pay the money for business he got from her on credit. "That was when she said she would find a boyfriend who would be able to give her the money she wanted to have. Later, she even showed me her boyfriend who was driving a white car.
Mbewe warned me not to tell anyone about her boyfriend as she could be in trouble with her husband," she said. She further said Mbewe's boyfriend sold audio tapes and mealiemeal at the same market and promised to bring him to court which she failed.
Justice Chitambo who sat with justices Henry Mwananshiku and Godfrey Banda found the allegations were false and warned Chola not to repeat making defamatory statements. "The Bible says a false witness should not escape the punishment and because you have embarked on destroying other people's marriage you shall pay Mbewe K500,000 as compensation," justice Chitambo said.
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Where Was the JW Guardian Angel?
by messenger inmexico arrests 16 in mill massacre .
the associated press .
http://cgi.worldnews.com/?action=display&article=13918828&template=worldnews/search.txt&index=recent.
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oops... looks like bro Rodriguez got missed to...
. http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-06-03/News_and_Views/Crime_File/a-152945.aspFrom: News and Views | Crime File |
Monday, June 03, 2002Bx. Wife Faces Life in Slaying
By CHRISENA COLEMAN
Daily News Staff WriterBronx woman convicted of murder faces up to life imprisonment when she is sentenced this week for paying a hit man $1,000 to kill her husband.
Gloria Rodriguez, 36, was found guilty of murder in the first degree in the fatal shooting of her husband, William Rodriguez, on Aug. 6, 2001.
Evidence presented at her trial showed that Rodriguez had her husband killed because she wanted a divorce, but he was a Jehovah's Witness and would not agree to end the marriage.
Prosecutors said Rodriguez hired 25-year-old Hector Rodriguez, no relation, to shoot her husband, giving him an initial payment of $1,000, but promising $3,000 more once the murder was carried out.
William Rodriguez was shot multiple times on Woodycrest Ave. near his home.
The gunman, who fled to Florida after the shooting, was arrested when investigators found out where he was staying and set up a meeting, purportedly to give him the balance of the money he was owed.
Bronx Supreme Court Justice Ira Globerman is expected to sentence the defendants, who both pleaded guilty, to 20 years to life Friday, although Bronx Assistant District Attorney Astrid Borgstedt of the domestic violence unit recommended the maximum sentence of 25 years to life.
A third defendant, Robert Rodriguez, pleaded guilty to one count of hindering prosecution and will be sentenced to nine months in jail.
Robert Rodriguez, who is unrelated to either of the two other defendants, drove the getaway car after the victim was gunned down.
He was only convicted of hindering prosecution because there was no evidence that he had any prior knowledge that the shooting was going to occur.
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Mexico Arrests 16 in Mill Massacre
The Associated Press
. http://cgi.worldnews.com/?action=display&article=13918828&template=worldnews/search.txt&index=recentSANTIAGO XOCHILTEPEC, Mexico (AP) — Army troops and police arrested 16 people in remote southern Mexico after 26 sawmill workers were massacred in a land dispute, state officials said Sunday.
Three mass burials clogged the little graveyard in this village of 640 people on Sunday as Evangelical church members, Jehovah's Witnesses and then Catholics lowered their dead into graves, some dug extra wide in the red clay so that relatives could be buried side by side.
The army and more than 200 state police helped in the arrests after Friday night's shooting about 215 miles southeast of Mexico City, the Oaxaca state attorney general's office said.
``This attack was an act of vengeance by one community toward another'' because of a federal ruling that the community of Santiago Xochiltepec owned hundreds of acres claimed by neighboring Santo Domingo Teojomulco, the office's statement said.
Most conflicts in the impoverished region are related in some way to land. Competing Indian cultures have battled over farm and forest land since before the Spanish conquest 500 years ago.
According to survivors, the 26 victims collected their pay Friday after spending a week working at a sawmill in San Pedro el Alto. They hitched a ride on a dump truck for the several-hour journey along a winding dirt road to their hometown of Xochiltepec.
At a spot called Agua Fria, rocks and tree trunks blocked the road. Gunmen emerged, chased away the driver and then opened fire, killing at least 26 men.
Only the driver, his son and four other people survived, the attorney general's office said.
The newspaper Reforma quoted driver Alberto Antonio Perez as saying, ``After stopping the vehicle, the subjects ordered me to get out of there and after advancing a few meters, they began shooting and then everything was confusion.''
Survivor Pablito Lopez Cruz, 18, told Televisa from a hospital in Oaxaca that he was protected by the bodies of his slain friends. After the killings, the attackers stripped the dead of their pay, he said.
``This was not a conflict, it was a massacre,'' said Sergio Santos, 25, who would have been on the truck that was attacked had he not returned home a day early from the sawmill to register a son's birth.
Abdias Hernandez, 66, said there had been repeated clashes with Teojomulco since 1935.
``If we had guns, we'd go and do the same thing to them, but we don't, which is why we stand here with our arms crossed,'' Hernandez said. ``If the government does nothing, the dispute will continue. There will be more massacres.''
People in Xochiltepec say men from neighboring Teojomulco raided their town Jan. 24 and fired hundreds of shots at the village school.
Those in the Teojomulco village of Las Huertas — population 390 — accused Xochiltepec men of a March 1 ambush that killed one person.
``The government has left this to grow and grow, and then this happened. It was brutal'' said Onofre Ramirez, a 24-year-old teacher. ``This is not an isolated situation. It is generalized throughout the region.''
Hundreds of people have died in decades of clashes related to land conflicts between Zapotec Indian villages such as Xochiltepec, Mixtec Indian districts such as Amoltepec, and Mestizo areas such as Teojomulco.
The federal agrarian reform department has reported some 600 ongoing community disputes over land in Oaxaca, Mexico's most heavily Indian state.
Repeated federal and state campaigns to solve the disputes have failed. Some disputes date to colonial times and others to conflicts between Indian nations before the Spanish arrived in the 16th century.
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