Posts by williamhconley

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If you thought Tony Moris the Third was extreme, wait till you hear this other GB member!

by Island Man in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzc2m8_mba&list=uus0vqkpnsxult0gsz6ahpta.

williamhconley

The degrading of women is nothing new nor should we be surprised by the Watchtower leaders. C.T. Russel didn't like to be overshadowed by his wife Maria as she was a better writer than him. He labelled her rebelious and not submissive although he refused to talk face to face with her. He also refused to call her "my wife". He imposed a "celibate marriage" on her according to the court records. When she left him because of his abusive behavior and she sued for alimony, he transferred his assets to another Corporation and moved his religious false prophesying scam to Brooklyn in 1909. She moved to one of their co-owned property and he kicked her out without prior notice and evicted the tenants she rented rooms to for income.

Rutherford was also separated from his wife (no elder today would qualify if he were separated from his spouse) and he would PUBLICLY state in talks from the platform that women were " a stack of bones & a rack of hair ". Tipping your hats to women, standing up when a women walks into a mans prescence, celebrating mothers day were all condemned as demonic during the Ruthless Rutherford reign of terror.

W.H. Conley

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TUTORIAL: Proving the GB and Watch Tower is guilty

by Terry in

q: are you willing to admit the gb and the wts is wrong if the facts go against them?.

proof text.

proof text:.

williamhconley

Great post Terry!

It's sad how most JW's refuse to accept the evidence that the GB did indeed predict 1975 as the end. The evidence is their own literature.

I had one Pioneer brother tell me that Jehovah purposely allowed the false prophecy of 1975 to be taught by the WT in order to weed out those in the Organization that were not loyal. That is cognizant dissonance on steroids! Cult members will justify their leaders evil actions because seeing the facts can be too painful.

W.H. Conley

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Jehovah's Witnesses on vaccination (let's remember)

by opusdei1972 in

this a excerpt from the article "the sacredness of human blood (why vaccination is unscriptural)", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 294.. .

the following is an excerpt from the article: "vaccination---why not?

", the golden age, february 4, 1931, page 298.. .

williamhconley

Bill Cetnar who worked in the service department during the vaccine ban in the 50's had gone to one of the producers of vaccinations and found out they are not made from blood but from eggs instead. He immediately send a memo to N.H. Knorr informing him that there is no violation of blood by accepting vaccinations. He got no response from the President.

It took several years later to change the policy against vaccinations even though they knew witness kids and familes were suffering for not accepting vaccinations and blood was not involved.. As it was required to have those shots to travel abroad, N.H. Knorr and F.W. franz had to get those shots to oversee their religious scam cult and visit branches. So they changed the policy to a personal matter.

How many JW's died of Polio or other diseases because of this dangerous cult? No one knows because the WT don't care. Those figures will not appear in any WT publication.

Jim Jones killed around 1,000 of his cult members in Guyana. The Watchtower is resposible for hundreds of thousands of lives that have been needlessly lost or imprisoned because of their evil policies (blood ban, marriage ban in 1938, alternative service ban, organ transplant ban, malawi etc).

(you can find Bill Cetnar on youtube where he is interviewed on a TV show with other ex-JWs very insightful facts)

W.H.Conley

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Lies taught by the GB about ....Life, Worldy people & apostates

by williamhconley in

the governing body not only lies to it's members about their true history but also about life itself, worldly people and former members.. here are some of those lies that come to my mind.. .

"jw's are the happiest people on earth" -.

fact: depression, anxiety, fear of punishment, paranoia, is what jw's live with every day.

williamhconley

The Governing Body not only lies to it's members about their true history but also about life itself, worldly people and former members.

Here are some of those lies that come to my mind.

1. "JW's are the happiest people on earth" -

FACT: Depression, anxiety, fear of punishment, paranoia, is what JW's live with every day. They are constantly told that they are never good enough. They are taught to hate and be suspicous of non-JW's. Especially those with appointed positions such as elders, servants etc live in constant fear and watching their back against backstabbers, politics and CO's that can remove them from their privileges. I have known several traveling overseers have breakdowns and other CO's wives beome addicted to medications to treat their depression.

2. "Non JW's (worldly people) are evil" -

FACT: Charities, Hospitals, Fund raising, feeding the homeless, searching for missing people are done by "worldly people". I have known pioneers that would refuse to visit publishers in the hospital or volunteer to clean or cook for the needy elderly in the Congregation because they need to get their time in for the month. Only if regulated by the Organization are JW's willing to help others in a practical way. If the world were evil and hated what was good, then why do they prosecute pedophiles while the GB protects them and disfellowships those that warn others in the KH?

3. "JW's are the only ones that show love"-

FACT: The "love" that JW"s show is CONDITIONAL. If you stop going to the meetings or preaching you will see the "love" miraculously disappear. Just a simple announcement from the platform that you are no longer a JW will show you how they can automatically turn the love switch off without caring one bit if you were wronged or not. Those smiles and hugs at the hall are dependent on you obeying the GB and following their approved works or activities. If a JW has to choose between helping you or go to the meeting or service, you better ask your worldly neighbor instead for that help unless he's a JW.

4. "Reading the WT publications for 1 year is equivalent to a 4 yr college education".

FACT:This one is so ridiculous that no further explanation is needed.

5. "Going to University or College shows ambition, pride and greed"

FACT: To live a decent life and be able to provide for your family is showing common sense, love for family and appreciation for life itself. Living in poverty and ignorance the rest of your life not only brings frustration, depression and low self-esteem but is not being a responsible person and not fair to your children.

6. "Once you get baptized, Satan will offer you opportunities to get rich"

FACT: I know many pioneers and other full time servants that envy others good fortune. They would jump at any opportunity to get ahead financially. 3 years ago in the district convention one of the speakers said that some JW's have even purchased lottery tickets. If Satan and the world are plotting to get JW's out of the WT by offering them riches, then why didn't those JW's win the lottery? Yet they are poor and struggle day to day to get by. The fact is opportunities to get ahead financially depends on your creativity, motivation and education. Has nothing to do with being a JW and "Satan" tempting you. If he did exist he would find more worthwhile things to do than attacking delusional, naive people to leave a lying, greedy, false prophesying Corporation masquerading itself as a religion.

7. "Apostates are full of lies"

FACT: Former JW's love truth even more than JW's! Even in this forum, if anyone says anything that is not verifiable or untrue, they will be called out on it. Former JW's such as Ray Franz, David Reed, Randall Waters, Barbara Anderson and Paul Grundy at jwfacts clearly show they only state what the verifiable, documented truth in their books or websites. They have no interest at all in spreading information that is questionable. Case in point is Pat Garza. She accused Ted Jaracs of molesting her when he was in the district work many years ago. This accusation never became known in the "Apostate" community online because Pat Garza (rest in peace) was not reliable and had many holes in her story. If former JW's were rabid dogs spreading lies, that accusation would of had much publicity and attention by "apostates". But that was not the case.

8. "Worldly girls want to seduce you because you're a JW"

FACT: Where are these girls? When I got baptized as a teenager, I was expecting the cheerleading squad to be fighting to have sex with me and I would have to fight them off. Thats what we are taught at the KH! The truth is no body gave a crap of who I was nor were they interested in having me as a friend. If you have no social skills (typical born in JW) or no interest in sports or being a people person, no one will try to befriend you. JW's flatter themselves by believing that everyone is out to break their integrity as if people have nothing better to do.

9. "Only JW's are persecuted"

FACT: Catholics & other Christians in Iraq and the rest of the muslim world for that matter have been killed for their faith in Christ. Church bombings are a problem in that part of the world. Even during the Nazi's, Catholic Priest and other Ministers were killed for not supporting Hitler. Yet the WT will not mention their bravery and courage or if they do mention it, they will minimize it.

10. "Worldly governments are run by Satan:

FACT: Many JW's are able to pioneer because they live off welfare, food stamps and other government aide. Think about it....Satan is actually supporting pioneers!! Even former bethelites and missionaries C.O.'s apply for government aide and Satans system helps them . The U.S. Supreme Court protects their freedom of religion so they can keep teaching JW's to worship the GB. I read a blog of a WT Gilead missionary in Panama that visited California and he had a heart attack there. Since he had no money, he got treatment and surgery for free from Satans worldy system of things. He even bragged about his treatment not costing the WT anything. If Satan existed and he was out to get JW's, don't you think he could've moved matters so that the WT GB would at least pick up the bill?

11. "Only JW's dont support wars"

FACT: Many other religious organizations refuse to partake in wars. See www.jwfacts.org

12. "WT changed to donation arrangement to spread the good news to the poor"

FACT: This change from contribution to donation was changed because the U.S.A. was charging Jimmy Swaggart for back taxes for selling his books via T.V. The WT even filed a "friend of the court" document to indicate they have an interest in the matter . Once Swaggart lost his case, the GB miraculously was directed by God to stop selling the literature and go to donation in order to avoid paying Cesar's things to Cesar.

13. "JW's have no leaders...only Christ"

FACT: JW's are to follow and accept without any question whatever the GB tells them or else be disfellowshipped. No matter how absurd a teaching or policy is, JW's are obligated to accept it even if it's false or changed in the future. Independent study of the Bible is not approved by the WT and you will be disfellowshipped if what you believe is not sanctioned by the GB. They have even stated in printed form that the Bible was written for the anointed only and Jesus is only mediator for them and not the rest of mankind. In elders meetings if someone uses the Bible to prove a point but another elder shows a publication or letter from the GB, the Bible will lose EVERY SINGLE TIME.

W.H.Conley

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What Made U Feel Special As A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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for me, it was the idea of never dying and living forever.

plus being a bible scholar.

lol.

williamhconley

For me it was the idea that we had the absolute irrefutable truth. This gave me courage, boldness and zeal to preach and be confident. This of course changed when I started to do real independent study of the Bible and the complete true history of the WT Corporation. This study has lead me to beleive that no one can say they have THE TRUTH as the bible itself is not clear on many doctrines and can actually be used to teach whatever you want.

Proof that the Bible is not a clear source for truth is the fact that there are over 10k christian religions and sects and cults. Even the organization that claims that they have the complete truth of the Bible is constantly changing it's doctrines even to the point of reverting back to interpretations that were changed years back.

W.H.Conley

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14 Minutes and you are not a Servant of Jehovah

by JT in

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last night we were discussing the "new light" that was revealed to the gb recently from jehovah.

many of us recall all the co talks and elder parts based on the bible text of how a true servant of jah would not be "inactive or irregular" for years one was required to have at least one hour to be considered a servant of jah.. as the sec in my hall i recall so many times calling up friends to get thier time and hearing them break crying cause they didn't have 60min only about 45min- and they knew that it meant they were not servants of jah.

now with the new light from jw a person with only 14 minutes of time will now be disqualified as being a servant of jah.. it is amazing how many jw will view this arrangement as a "loving provision from jah" instead of realizing that thier service to thier god has been reduced to whether they get 15min or 14 min.

williamhconley

JT,

Great powerful post.

What bible studies are not told is that by becoming a JW, you give complete control of you life to the Organization. Your social life, feeling of purpose, family ties, feeling of belonging, status and dignit are now in the hands of the WT organization. If you don't play their game of blind obedience .... you lose it alll!!

Those that have had the courage to speak up against the lies and abuse of the WT are disgraced and their friends and social life taken away ie.... Walter Salter, Olin Moyle, Raymond Franz, Edward Dunlap, Barbara & Joe Anderson just to name a few.

As a pioneer for over 25 yrs, I would always get frustated and frightened when I would encounter intelligent knowledgeable people of the Bible. No matter what evidence or proof they would show, I felt obligated to defend at all cost the interpretations of the WT Corporation. You see JW's dont care one bit of defending the truth of the Bible. We were defending the ORGANIZATION as thats all we had in the world that made us feel important, a sense of belonging and identity. In the Organization you had the opportunity to be somebody (pioneer, ms, elder, bethelite etc) while in the real world you were a nobody.

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2014 District Convention Symposium - "What Must Be Kept In Second Place". - wow, unbelievable......

by EndofMysteries in

its up on jw.org the 2014 convention program.

friday 2:00 symposium : what must be kept in second place?

recreation.

williamhconley

Most dubs have realized that the GB serves baloney and completely ignores their counsel. I know many elders that have gotten higher education (secretly of course) tend to their businesses, travel, have nice cars and homes. They preach 2 hrs every saturday and attend 70% of meetings and no one bothers them.

If any JW takes the counsel of the GB seriously they wouldnt have a life at all and would be leeches living off welfare and food stamps and judging others who are truly balanced.

W.H.Conley

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Troubling experience at 1 day assembly re: little jw child

by williamhconley in

just had my 1day assembly this weekend.

an experience given by the bethel speaker was quite troubling and shows how jw's live in constant paranoia, anxiety and they isolate themselves from normal living.. a first grade class was having a fire drill.

everyone ( except one) lined up and stood outside away fron the classroom in the grass.

williamhconley

Just had my 1day assembly this weekend. An experience given by the bethel speaker was quite troubling and shows how JW's live in constant paranoia, anxiety and they isolate themselves from normal living.

A first grade class was having a fire drill. Everyone ( except one) lined up and stood outside away fron the classroom in the grass. The 1st grade teacher noticed that 1 child was missing. She went to the classroom and the little JW boy had his head down over his arms. The teacher asked him why didn't he walk out with the rest of his classmates and the boy answered "well I know christmas is bad and also birthdays but firedrills....Im not too sure so I stayed".

The audience laughed and applauded of course but this experience shows how JW's even children are taught not to think for themselves and to view everything and everyone around them as Satanic and evil. You are constantly told that Jehovah will feel sad if you do this or that. That is mental torture! I felt sorry for the kid. The constant guilt heaped upon JWs is tiring. Anxiety and depression are rampant in WT land.

W.H.Conley

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Idiotic Statement in Today's Public Talk

by piztjw in

"some though say, 'but you need to be balanced.

you need to work, pay bills, provide for your family and so forth.

' but think about a bicycle.

williamhconley

Ride that bicycle without stopping. If you die of dehydration for not stopping to get water, no problem you have a resurrection.

If your family cant afford a proper funeral for you because all they did was ride the bicycle, no problem ...paradise will fix it.

If you get ran over for not stopping at the stop sign for not being able to read, no problem as you were obedient by not getting an education.

If you leave no life insurance or assets for your family because all you did was ride the WT never ending bicycle, no problem in the new world you wont need money.

The WT dont want you to have a life. All they want is for you to slave for them distributing their literature that will be obsolete in a couple of years. They even specifically spoke against getting married (1940 children book) and against having children (ibid).

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June Study WT Up and Bashing Uni Again

by konceptual99 in

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rehashed format but same ole' shite.. hypocritical article on viewing "weak" ones compassionately usign the example of a single mum arriving late yet the may km has a whole article on how rude it is not to be punctual.. read it and weep....

williamhconley

The hypocrisy is nauseating. I have seen bethelites that were obedient by not doing anything for themselves (university, starting a business etc) just pioneered and I have seen brothers that have received higher education also go to bethel without even pioneering.

Guess who was treated like crap? Yep, the naive brother that obeyed the GB of not "getting ahead" for himself. These have been stuck doing hard labor jobs at bethel while the other who got higher education has his own office in bethel, is friends with the branch committee etc.

I have also seen poor obedient pioneers living a simple life and yet an affluent family in the Congregations that started ther own business, got educated etc. Guess where the C.O. or bethel speakers stayed at? You guessed it, the affluent family with higher education that can provide better accomodations

Todays daily text (03/13/14) said emphatically that starting a business, improving your lifestyle etc is wrong! Yet the WT organization is always planning ahead financially, building properties (free labor), selling properties (tax free), sending elite bethelites to Universities to become lawyers or engineers. Yet if the rank & file do it, they are criticized and made to feel guilty.

J.F. Rutherford had several mansions and two 16 cylinder cadillacs while the pioneers lived in trailers, not getting married, not having children, suffering from hunger and getting mobbed. We have to admit that both Russel & Rutherford were damn good business people knowing how to take advantage of poeple's fear of God.

(BTW: Judah Schroeder son of GB member Albert Shroeder went to NYU and got his law degree. Mention this to elders or the C.O. when they bring up the guilt trips about higher education)

W.H.Conley