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  Just courius, some questions about the past

  by Gorb in

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  curious.

  time goes by so fast.

  who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

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  ScenicViewer

  "...I remember the generation change...it went from being of understanding age in 1914 from being born in 1914..."

  There was a another, smaller change in there too. At one time the 'age of understanding' was said to be "about 15 years old." That was later changed to being 10 years old, which bought Watchtower a few more years.

  In those days Watchtower said you had to be old enough to understand that Bible prophecy about the last days was being fulfilled, at least have a very basic understanding of it, to be of the generation.

  Then the age of understanding was dropped completely and it was being born in 1914 that counted. Of course that failed too.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  @ Toblerone5

  ...he was never an Elder...

  Sometimes I have a difficult time understanding your posts, so I have to ask, are you saying that Lloyd Evans was never an elder?
  
  
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  The Gospel According to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.

  the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.

  the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).

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  Got it. Thanks.

  Their ideas about the 'ending of the Gentile Times' are totally useless. Regardless of when the Gentile Times supposedly ended JWs were banned in Russia just a few years ago, and are banned in several other countries as well. How could that be possible if the Gentile Times have ended and God's Kingdom has been ruling since 1914 (or 1934)?

  What nonsense they teach!
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  The Gospel According to Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mark jones explains the watchtower gospel much better than i can.. "the good news that christians in the first century preached was the birth, death and resurrection of jesus christ; that all those who believed in him were saved and reconciled to god through the death of his son.. unfortunately jehovah’s witnesses) have been led to believe it is something bizarrely different.

  the good news according to the watchtower society is as follows:.

  the the good news (according to jehovah’s witnesses).

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  Vanderhoven7: Nor would believing or not believing in 1874, 1919 or 1934 affect that salvation in the slightest.

  May I ask, what significance does 1934 play in the Watchtower belief system?
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  Best Xmas Songs

  by peacefulpete in

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  my favorites.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

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  Remember Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass? His version of "Jingle Bell Rock," which is an instrumental piece, is also a favorite. (Alpert is the only trumpet player that I ever really cared for.)

  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSOqtiyVbew
  
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  Best Xmas Songs

  by peacefulpete in

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  2. friends

  my favorites.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsdg9qtjzzi.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uudu66e_vw.

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  I have always liked the Carpenters, and "Merry Christmas, Darling" has become an all time favorite Xmas song to me.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR1ujXx2p-I
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  Can you answer my questions, please?

  by Sandie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have three questions.

  i would be most grateful if someone could respond for me, please.

  thank you.. 1. can jehovah's witnesses practice faith with the bible as a guide, or is it crucial to include the teachings of the watchtower society?

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  Sandie:

  1. Can Jehovah's Witnesses practice faith with the Bible as a guide, or is it crucial to include the teachings of the Watchtower Society?

  The Bible itself has not changed in over 2000 years, but the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses have changed constantly from their beginning - the religion is only about 143 years old and is virtually unrecognizable compared to the early days (known as International Bible Students then. The name Jehovah's Witnesses came in 1931).

  It's what the Watchtower Organization says that counts, not the Bible, but they will NEVER acknowledge this.
  
  

  Vanderhoven:

  You will have a great time here with Ex-JW Atheists, Agnostics, Jehovah's Witnesses and several evangelical Christians.

  I love the mix. Getting different points of view is something that Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to do, per the directives of their organization's leaders (the Governing Body).
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  Yet another mo' money video!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (in the what's new section) apparently jehovah is still failing to provide the necessary funds so have to beg and petition men for support even though we said we'd never do that!.

  new angle, if you want to make friends with jehovah and jesus we need more of your unrighteous riches .

  apparently jehovah is in the protection racket now.

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  I have arranged a private meeting with these three idiots with my lawyer which they don't know will be present. Stay tuned.

  Wow, I will be looking forward to hearing how this turns out! All the best to you Foolednomore.
  
  
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  Sister In "Pants" Carrying the Microphone--Brother in "Jeans" out in Service!

  by Atlantis in

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  click the image to enlarge.. sister carrying microphone at kingdom hall in pants!.

  https://postimg.cc/jdjysmgt.

  brother in blue jeans out in service.. https://postimg.cc/z36bj89h .

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  ScenicViewer

  These are interesting photos.

  The pants the mic handler is wearing seem too bulky to be simply leggings - notice the bulkiness behind the slightly bent knee - they appear to be pants to me. The dress being worn over them makes this sort of a blend of the traditionally accepted and the taboo, perhaps a slight step in a new direction.

  The light blue pants of the young man in service seem too bulky to be dress slacks too, again notice the bulkiness behind the knee. They appear to be jeans to me, but I can't be certain.

  I remember the use of women too, where there were not enough men to do the basic duties, but you didn't have to be a ministerial servant to handle the microphones, at least not in the 2 congregations I was in.
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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  ScenicViewer

  I seem to recall from old literature, that in the early days of the Watchtower Organization, the Catholic Church was Babylon the Great. That seems to coincide with Rome being Babylon.