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  Atheist Book of Bible Stories

  by crystlew123 in

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  ok so i dl'd this book.

  and i immediatly began reading it.

  i am about 50 pdf pages into it.

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  Sulla

  OK, I'll repeat myself. Why are you so dumb?

  Here's what I mean: do you suppose you are the first person to have discovered all that stuff in scripture? If lots of people smarter than you have been reading these books for thousands of years (assuming you allow the possibility that there exist people who have ever been smarter than you) and have somehow concluded that scripture is not all garbage, does it occur to you that they may have something useful to say about the subject? Or are you so taken with your own amazing smarts that you don't need to pause to consider that the civilization that thinks these works are worthwhile are really worthwhile?
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  Atheist Book of Bible Stories

  by crystlew123 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so i dl'd this book.

  and i immediatly began reading it.

  i am about 50 pdf pages into it.

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  Sulla

  Since the Bible can't usefully be read the way ignorant fundamentalists read it, it must be that the Bible can't usefully be read at all!

  How did any of you fall of the JWs, keen wits that you have?
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  12/15 Study WT Questions From Readers - What to do with frozen embryos

  by traveb in

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  2. friends

  didn't see this posted already so i thought i would start a new topic.

  three-page article about in vitro fertilization and what to do with frozen embryos.

  the way i read it is everything to do with ivf is a conscience matter unless it involves a 3rd party then it's considered porneia.

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  Sulla

  Glander, the process of freezing embryos is pretty standard, as I understand.
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  They STILL might be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  big news - i met with the elders last night.

  they were not arrogant and they were not mean spirited, but of course we all know they also would not budge from the jw brainwashed beliefs they are sworn to uphold.

  i let my light shine, and within two minutes of sitting down with them was no longer nervous.. .

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  Sulla

  No, you're DF-ed. You just don't know it yet.
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  Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses is NOT the same as the doctrines leaving you

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you grow up speaking english and you move to mexico you don't automatically speak spanish, know customs, understand currency, possess skills.

  for self-support or have any special insight into latino mindset.. .

  why would you expect leaving jehovah's witnesses would leave you any less ill-equipped to navigate the real world?.

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  Sulla

  I was out on a date with a lady who was a psychologist. She was intelligent, well-read, interesting and non-religious.

  Somehow or other the conversation drifted (why--I don't know) thanks to me....to the "days of Noah".....

  I started telling her, matter-of-fact style, about angels who came down to earth and had sex with women which resulted in the birth of giants....!

  The expression on her face as she realized I WAS SERIOUS....instantly clued me just how damned STUPID I was for ever believing this story!

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  After that I started questioning my own sanity!!

  That is the most horrible story anyone has ever told. Better for you if you had just gone ahead and shit your pants, rather than start that conversation about the Flood. Wow.
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  Jesus invisible presence in 1914, what purpose did it serve?

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why did jesus arrive invisible?

  what is he supposedly to do.

  for mankind since 1914?

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  Sulla

  The main theological idea is that Jesus returned to re-establish the Church he established back in the day -- the one that failed even though he said it would never fail. So, Church re-established as the JWs (who pass the test due to their superior and unique desire for the true religion -- as opposed to actually teaching the true religion, as they admit) is here to tell people about the end of all things.

  So, that would be what was accomplished.
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  Did you have to try another church or religion on your way to unbelief?

  by donny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in 1992 when i was slowly extricating my way out of the wacthtower, there was no internet, smart phones or any other type of quick data download available.

  i had basically 3 choices to obtain viewpoints from ex-jw's.. #1 - go to go to the library and look for books critical of the society.

  #2 - go to a christian book store to look for the same.. #3 - order item like these from addresses or phone numbers listed in the back of these publications.. and while doing any of these things, you were always looking over your shoulder to see if any "brothers" were around.. the problem i experienced is that virtually all of these books, while giving you good reason to doubt the watchtower, always pointed to "christendom" as the way you needed to go.

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  Sulla

  Heh. I was agnostic / atheist directly after being a JW. It just seemed natural given the near-atheism of the JWs. But I couldn't stick with it: it required too much blind faith.
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  Tried to convince the JW's on my street I was possesed.

  by Cagefighter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took a walk down to the corner store to find something to help out my slight hangover from watching the cowboys and my poker night.

  i made it half way down the block and there they were!

  two older couples out door-to-door.. they seemed to be having a pow-wow in front of a block of apartments.

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  Sulla

  Ok. Mocking a complete stranger on the street is in no way inappropriate at all. Stay classy, guys.
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  My fade has hit the fan!

  by SophieG in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys!

  well the caca hit the fan!

  a friend asked me why i am leaving the org and i told her.

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  Sulla

  They are freaking out because they know that you will be dead to them soon. It is entirely rational from their perspective. You really ought to take a minute and try to understand that fact: they aren't every going to speak to you again. Actually, you should be a little upset about it, too.

  Everyone here wants to cheer you on. I don't see it that way. It is a personal tragedy -- perhaps one that cannot be avoided, but a tragedy nonetheless. We shouldn't cheer those, especially when the person talking about it doesn't seem to have a clue about what is happening.
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  Tried to convince the JW's on my street I was possesed.

  by Cagefighter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i took a walk down to the corner store to find something to help out my slight hangover from watching the cowboys and my poker night.

  i made it half way down the block and there they were!

  two older couples out door-to-door.. they seemed to be having a pow-wow in front of a block of apartments.

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  Sulla

  Yup. I'm with steve2 here: don't like it. Popping off in public is, in my opinion, quite low-rent.