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Bella15
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My observation, the "threefold cord" actually weakens a marriage
by Robert7 inso my wife and i survived leaving the jw faith together over the course of the last 4 years.
it was a wild ride for our relationship, but thankfully we are stronger than ever.
so looking back, here is my observation about the "threefold cord", at least the jw version of it.. i believe the idea of the threefold cord actually weakens a marriage, keeping it less mature.
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My observation, the "threefold cord" actually weakens a marriage
by Robert7 inso my wife and i survived leaving the jw faith together over the course of the last 4 years.
it was a wild ride for our relationship, but thankfully we are stronger than ever.
so looking back, here is my observation about the "threefold cord", at least the jw version of it.. i believe the idea of the threefold cord actually weakens a marriage, keeping it less mature.
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Bella15
Of interest is the fact that the nation of Israel viewed themselves as married to the law/YHWH (at Mount Sinai) a lot of stuff in the bible about marriage hides, has a message concerning God's relationship of husband/wife with Israel ,,, Jesus spoke in parables to hide the meaning of what he was saying from satan (yes, I said satan), true Jewish/Israelites believers would understand what was behind Jesus' words ... like hint hint ... LOL!
Another confusion which at least in Hispanic JW wives I 've seen, is that they take this literarally (which give way to slavery) ..."To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." Surprise surprise this is another "play" "methaphor", "analogy" hiding a message ... nothing to do with natural births and marriage
These are great subjects to study/research, then a lot of stuff in the bible will make more sense to you... true believers and seekers should not forget that ... "they (Jews) have been entrusted with the very words of God." Get rid of all antisemitic influences which is another deceit of Satan, get the right perspectives with the help of the Holy Spirit, with prayers, fasting according to the extend of your desire to be a man or a woman after God's own heart ...
Anyway ... if you read Ecclesiastes 4 ...you'll see that it is not talking about marriage ... some men took it and made it a model for "christian" marriage I guess ... then God takes the blame ...
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Is true faith possible?
by freshstart ini still feel the need to worship and the desire for faith, but having been raised as a jw and not knowing anything else, i just feel confused and lost as far as faith goes.
sometimes i think that maybe their isn't a god, i just don't know......
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Bella15
Faith, in the Christian context, will be true to you to the extend you personally believe. If you are referring to the "faith" the bible talks about, Jesus said that faith the size of a mustard seed would move mountains.
"Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ."
Moses, The Law and the Prophets wrote about Jesus, everything in the Holy Scriptures is about Christ. Christ came and He himself deliver the divine message of salvation.
I understand your question and your longing ... and after everything has been said and done by Jesus (as we read in Old Testament and the testimony of his Apostles) the question is DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS? Do you believe the divine message he personally delivered to mankind?
Forget about the Watchtower CORPORATION they do not preach the message that Jesus delivered, and do not take their deception as baseline to discard God and Christ. "Let God be true, and every man a liar."
"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." Jesus said that he has seen God, the Father - do you believe him?
God is not human, and we try to understand him by human/physical means. He is Spirit and operates in the Spiritual realm. Jesus said we need to be born again. We can receive spiritual life only by being born of the Spirit.
The natural person cannot understand spiritual truth. As Jesus said, unless one is born of the Spirit, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Jesus removes any doubt that being born of the Spirit is the only way to God—the only way to see and enter the kingdom of God. Nothing more is needed. Nothing less will do.
God reveals Himself--and all truth--by the Holy Spirit. Apart from the Holy Spirit, one cannot understand God's truth. God does not favor the intellectual—He reveals Himself to those who seek Him. This is why people who have not received Christ cannot understand the Bible:
John 8:47 "He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God."
1 Cor 2:14 But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.
I didn't understand being born again because I thought it was something I'd experience like baptism in water, but one who is born of the Spirit sees the effects of the Spirit without seeing the Spirit Himself.
Mark 4:26,27 And He was saying, "The kingdom of God is like a man who casts seed upon the soil; 27 and he goes to bed at night and gets up by day, and the seed sprouts and grows--how, he himself does not know.
I have learned that being a Christian it is not going door to door, or spend hours sittings at meetings and all other religious stuff, it is deeper, supernatural, it is a spiritual, personal relationship with Jesus.
Read the bible again (not the Watchtower version - I don't trust it since reading the 1954 Walsh trial transcript and about the Greber guy) and God will give you the desires of your heart ...
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Question
by redspider inafter jesus was resurected in 3 days and nights was he resurected as a man or a angle that looked like a man to humans because i read he went on preaching the good news and healing?
also how long was he here before he returned to jehovah in heaven ?.
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Bella15
Hi Redspider ... something that helps me when I wonder about things about God, Jesus or any other biblical subjects (I am Christian) is to put my question out there in the universe, I ask God or Jesus to let me know the answers, then I stand "still and observe - God talks to us through the still small voice, dreams, bible, other people, in 3's, meaning that the same subject or situation will develop and all of a sudden it will hit you that the universe is trying to tell you something ... the best method for me is to ask God a question or let him know my feelings then pray for guidance and open the bible and let the Holy Spirit work in me. God spoke through "plays" so to say in the past, Jesus used parables, and at least in my personal life I have seen that, some things are not coincidences, you will personally know when the odds of things happening in response to your innermost thoughts are to big, unique to be random ... you have to have FAITH first and Faith is spiritual you don't need to develop human/flesh critical thinking skills ... FAITH is supernatural nothing to do with the physical realm ... by all means develop critical thinking skills to deal with the things of the flesh, earthly stuff but when it comes to God, Jesus, Holy Spirit believe, receive, become!!! Operate in the Spirit.
Cheers
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Realizing and Acknowledging the Corruption of the Watchtower Corporation
by thetrueone inprobably the best way for anyone who takes a glancing interest in this organization is to.
openly examine and review this religion from the ground up.
where it got started, what .
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Bella15
Yeap ... I did exactly that ... " openly examine and review this Religion from the ground up"
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Yet another Watchtower Lie
by jwfacts inthe watchtower website is currently highlighting the article "are jehovah's witnesses a protestant religion?
" from the the watchtower november 1, 2009. it makes the following comment:.
"third, unlike the protestant movement, which has splintered into hundreds of denominations, jehovahs witnesses have maintained a united global brotherhood.".
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Bella15
McDonalds, Texaco, Shell and thousands of other companies keep the same business model all over the world ... ORGANIZATION, CORPORATION, FRANCHISE (elder's manual) is the key!!!
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Bella15
The bible says that the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy ... it is hard to understand the bible in the flesh, you have to consider it by FAITH ... the bible contains a message that gets activated by the Spirit so to say ... but the Spirit has to live in you first ... the Law, Moses and the Prophets were all about Jesus ... God says that when you look for Him with all your heart you'll find Him ... He will make sure you come to Jesus, Jesus will give you the Comforter, the Spirit, to guide you and what it is written in the bible we'll make sense to you, it will teach you and change you from the inside out ... but if you only want to challenge or find the "truth" (historically) about the bible you will remain in the dark and in the never ending battle/question: Is the bible the word of God? By FAITH, and if you lack faith, ask God to help your unbelief ...but again, you must be truly want to know God for the right reasons, because there is something in you that longs for Him, not everybody has this ...
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4 Suicides I Am Aware Of This Year, Why Elders, COs Are Not Competent To Handle These Matters. (Life Or Death, Your Choice!)
by AvocadoJake ini would like to relate with the first suicide that took place this year, this was more than seven months ago.
this person was deeply distraught and was talking about killing themself.
the conduct of this person started to escalate (deep depression with morbid thoughts.
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Bella15
Of course they are not competent ... sorry but in the USA hispanic community for example most Elders are dish washers, janitors, construction workers, mechanics, cooks, "yarderos" meaning gardeners, and come from poor towns in their countries, uneducated families, they are not even street smart since they come from the mountains - trust me I know I have even seen lots of JWs dancing like natives (totally pagan LOL) - anyway, these people donot have the professional, medical, background to recognize mental illness among the flock ... c'mon in our society we even have professionals called"Veterinarians" to take care of farm animals - it seems they get better treatment that a poor sick JW sheep :(
I don't know your experience, but most of the churches I have visited here in Houston the pastor has a college degree, some are psychologist, and have continued education classes and seminars, conferences throughtout the year. After meeting an awesome pastor last week I really really would love to go to a college of biblical studies to obtain a degree as counselor. I was wowed after listening to him talking to married couples, I wanted to cry because so many JWs don't get to listen to a Christian professional give advice on specific subjects. For example I know that my mom and my sisters the only advice they received from Elders when fretting about their husbands was this one ... Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. OR "... each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband - ALL with emphasis on that no matter what the WIFE HAS TO PUT UP - which results in the wife feeling RAPED by her own husband - this is another serious thing going on among hispanic JW wives, a silent killer!
I plan to dedicate a period of fasting and praying for all JWs suffering under that Corporation ...
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What is the actual PRODUCT being sold by Jehovah's Witnesses??
by Terry inmadison avenue became famous for selling the sizzle rather than the steak.. the point of advertising was to create an appetite for a product.. sometimes, in order to create desire for the product, advertising consisted of imposing an embedded fear that could only.
be resolved by purchasing the solution: the product.. .
four hundred and twelve billion dollars annually is spent on advertsing in the u.s. ($412 billion).
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Bella15
The PRODUCT they sell through books and magazines I'd say is the "Paradise" that THEY are going to create - don't mind that the Bible says that it is GOD who is going to make the new heavens and new earth.
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What is the most embarassing moment you've had while still a JW?
by african GB Member ini remember having to preach to my girlfriend/classmate while i was still at school.
i was with one of the elders and it was my 'house' to preach.. wished i could vanish from the surface of the earth..
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Bella15
LOL @ Glueman! Elderly sister ..OMG!!! Poor thing.