Posts by AwareBeing

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MAKESHIFT EXPLANATIONS OF EVENTUALLY DISCARDED OPINIONS

by Terry in

the truth must be defined.. here is my definition of the watchtower society's truth:.

makeshift explanations of eventually discarded opinions.. .

how else do we explain the necessity of discarding what has been revealed?.

AwareBeing

Hi Terry and every one here.

I've been enjoying a lot of good posts from Terry and all lately. You may find it interesting to know that on another thread some one mentioned that the CO's test idea's for Bethel. It was said that before a "new thought" is developed and published by the WT; they get some feed back form the CO's. These ideas are generously "leaked" to appreciative and privileged elders and pioneers through this represenitive of the GB! The reception in checked on how well it does, and rebuttals are reasoned out in NY. If they have a strong case for printing this as a teaching, and serves the interests of the "organization"; then wella'! More new light! Hopefully it is well thought out, or more light may be nessesary to explain, change or cover up this light from "heaven".

Have a great week all.

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Who Knows The Exact Current Interpretation of "Generation" Please!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

would someone please explain the current interpretation of the generation.

this topic is one that is causing alot of confussion and turmoil.

jwn, you.

AwareBeing

"The interpretation to those not hearing GOD is: "'Keep walking in circles;

Oh you people and do not walk straight, but keep turning along your way!

If it is the soothsayer you follow, then to him you belong and must obey;

My words and promises are thus, void to you and your generations.

Fore, this one is calling himself My servant and yet is enslaving all the people;

from the young to the old, and dead ones, and even those not yet born.

He does not speak for Me; but, is false. And talks in circles with confident words.

This one craves for his own wayward way, and serves the older soothsayers.'"

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How the house of cards comes crashing down, in the WTS' own words.

by poopsiecakes in

"rejecting or trivializing the genesis account about adam and eve creates a domino effect that undermines nearly every major teaching in the bible!

such a way of thinking leads to a host of unanswered questions and a faith with nothing to stand on.".

footnote: "these include teachings about gods sovereignty, human integrity, good and evil, free will, the condition of the dead, marriage, the promised messiah, a paradise earth, gods kingdom, and many others.".

AwareBeing

There's allot of religious groups that don't fit the WT's description of "Christendom!"

In fact quiet a few have many of the proven truths that we've been made aware of!

Also; these Bible groups though small, aren't dictated over by corporate style comities!

Best of all, their not enslaved to ridiculous and indefinable dogma's of former leaders!

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How the house of cards comes crashing down, in the WTS' own words.

by poopsiecakes in

"rejecting or trivializing the genesis account about adam and eve creates a domino effect that undermines nearly every major teaching in the bible!

such a way of thinking leads to a host of unanswered questions and a faith with nothing to stand on.".

footnote: "these include teachings about gods sovereignty, human integrity, good and evil, free will, the condition of the dead, marriage, the promised messiah, a paradise earth, gods kingdom, and many others.".

AwareBeing

Those may be WT's words, but often times they use researched information.

They many times will make impressive references and talk the talk

as if their colleges of outsiders with degrees!

Then there's the occasions where they quietly steel ideas from others,

and may alter it a little and call it "new light" from Jehovah's channel to only them!

I have three books at home that bear this to mind,

and can recall several first to second century writings and or teachings they have

lifted and blackmarket(ed) the ideas to their own said: "God given" credit!

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Some Things I Have Learned Up Till Now

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

(interspersed with opinions of course...) .

it will be 6 years since i left the sickness known as jehovah's witnesses.

whew!

AwareBeing

Three cheers for AllTimeJeff! He's right! For three years I've been practicing what he writes about on this thread, and I know from experience that this advice is helpful. Like Jeff wrote, there are failures but we can improve on these. Also, that books or any format for educating yourself will lead to a more fulfilling life. You'll be able to follow your conscience, and do what you know is right. Your family will view you as a whole person, with greater abilities to assist them; and your coworkers will senses a calm control in you that their more comfortable with! You'll accomplish small things at first, and later have the strength to make major changes. Breaking this barrier opens to possibilities that have long term effects you'd other wise not have benefited from! But be advised; others in your life will be taken along for the ride, one of which they are not accustomed too and will express a mixed rang of emotions. They will be in shock, question why! It's like when you became a witness, all these changes that they don't understand. It's a new you, and their confused; their afraid of what's happening to you! This time as before, you'll reason with them; only it will be you and your Saviour's decision. No WT dedication, your talents are from GOD and your going to start using them for the good! Door to door preaching for the GB only does more of the same, more dubs being dedicated to WT's GB! They have books and information that turns folks into drones for them, but nothing to help make you a better you for GOD and family!

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Who Knows The Exact Current Interpretation of "Generation" Please!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

would someone please explain the current interpretation of the generation.

this topic is one that is causing alot of confussion and turmoil.

jwn, you.

AwareBeing

WT's Recycled Generation Teaching

"Let GOD be Found True, But Every Man A Lier" -Romans 3:4

2) The Anointed

Overlapping Anointed / o 6) o

/ / o 5) ...\ Anointed Again!

/ __ / __ / __ \ \

/ / \

/ o 4) Now The Wicked \

1) Those at word's end o \ __ __ __ __ o 3) Those born around 1914

This recycling chart was brought to you by the mind benders at HQ, NY.

We greatly appreciate your full participation in these recommend recycling rules.

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Who Knows The Exact Current Interpretation of "Generation" Please!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

would someone please explain the current interpretation of the generation.

this topic is one that is causing alot of confussion and turmoil.

jwn, you.

AwareBeing

Each teaching from start to finish is like a dot on a trash can label.

Connect the dots with pointing arrows, including the last one to the first.

You find out that you've been running in circles; it's a recycling symbol!

Buy then, you've dedicated the best of your years and life these unloving lier's.

But the real purpose of the teaching of the generations is to entrap the next one!

A self perpetuating teaching that survives the end of one, into their children, and so on...

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Hello Jehovah's Witnesses. I was in class 119 of Gilead in 2005

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

my picture is in the january 1, 2006 watchtower.. why am i telling you this?

consider this my small weekend contribution to the cause of real truth.

any jw who has been one for a while, or a born in, knows the regard that pioneers, elders, bethelites and missionaries have.

AwareBeing

The apostles and those whom they anointed had holy spirit, when that generation died off the gifts of the spirit ceased. That means the 144,000 was completed then fro the heavenly work Yesuah gave then. Many fled to Pella at Jerusalem's destruction, formed a community there, and the disciples from Galilee spoke Aramaic as the Messiah did. They were not off-shoots of the Roman church, yet they did study the "Apostolic Father's" writings in connection with the later canonized writings. They all had the holy spirit including those who wrote down the words of the apostles. Can WT claim any of this? Or does hiding these facts suit them better? Can WT still try to stretch the org, the anointing and it's writings as the one and only truth? No. Truth is, truth is in heaven, and WT is the Devil's trickery! To keep honest people looking to NY for Jesus, instead of to the heavens since he's invisible. All we'll see on earth is elders sucking up all the praise and glorifying their wives, children and pioneers. Calling Jehovah's name in vain with a mispronunciation, won't make it any more the truth. This completely fake religion is a totally disgusting thing in Yehuwah's eyes! You want truth? Read up on world history in the time of the apostles in the Jordan and Syria, the Early Church Fathers, and Bible concordances from acclaimed scholars. No more WT P.R. spin; po-lee-se!

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watchtower.org Have you wondered...Do JW believe that their religion is the only right one? Doesnt say YES!!

by mP in

http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/article_08.htm#only.

do the witnesses believe that their religion is the only right one?anyone who is serious about his religion should think that it is the right one.

otherwise, why would he or she be involved in it?

AwareBeing

If WT's JW org was the only true religion, why are they running out in droves just on the eve of salvation?

Because the many truths that only they teach, are overturned by all their wacky and wrong teachings!

For decades folks said: "Wait on Jehovah to fix it", then: "There's no where else to go to!"

The last few years it's been: "If this is what WT, GB, and elders are all about, this can't be right!"

So today many realize they must flee from all religion including the WT's publishing org. before it's end!

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Wheres the safest place on earth to run to!!!

by Star tiger in

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with all the bad things happening now where would be the safest place to be, for myself and and famiy i would expect that would be somewhere in the far east high above the food plain, people there also have much more repect for human life and do not leave their elders to die alone without any respect and have a much nicer famiy society and seem to be much more organised as to their affairs.. .

star tiger.

AwareBeing

Neighborhood communities, with the men being real men and taking turns on guard for the women and children. Know who belongs and turn away strangers. Call authorities before your overran. Have a community fund for real emergencies, keep enough food for a few weeks, and a way to cook it, store water too. Own the right amount of autos to transport you and your neighbors in case of siege or disaster. Extra gas to get you far from the area if it's really bad. Countries were once made strong by their communities, today folks stay in all the time while thugs run the neighborhoods. "There's safety in numbers" this means community, no matter where you live!