so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.
14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".
after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".
You are very brave!
Glad to know that is on the website - I avoid that place.
So obviously I am not the only one who didnt know that the word shunned is used on the site.
How embarrassing for your counselor.
He didnt know till you showed him....the information merry go round that is the Org is spinning faster and faster
would you consider the members of the governing body of jw's to be in black magicians in the modern world?
for your consideration their effects in society.. 6.2 black magic spells.
in black magic, the priests cast spells: they recite formulas, conduct rituals, make magic items.
Dogpatch,
I would also really value your thoughts on the thread vidiot mentioned.
a sister came by my house today.
not to see how i was or why i have not been to meetings for the past months - she needed to borrow some money for the upcoming convention.
we chatted a little, and i cound not keep my mouth shut about some questions i have and some discoveries i made about the doctrine.
wow paradisebeauty. That is the opposite of what the Boreans were commended for isnt it?
this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.
lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.
so who is lorenz reibling?
Fascinating.
I dont want in any way to throw this thread off its track but we have been wondering for a long time who the real movers and shakers are behind the Governing Body.
I think OrphanCrow is showing us one of them.
so at the assembly to day that nitwit lett gave a talk....i noticed right away he had a pinky ring.
i asked my wife what was the purpose of the pinky ring?
and then asked....would jesus wear a pinky?
People get "pissed off" when they dont have a solution or an answer.
You are 100% correct goingthru...
just remember, you are out to win the war not the battle.
personally i think this is wonderful.
i have nothing against gay people and wish them only the best.. but of course i'm in a minority of one, the jw's around me are posting away on fb the most homophobic vitriol imaginable.
a lot of them are even saying that it's the start to armageddon!!.
In addition to being hypocrisy in action (as they are in so many areas) they wont read the decision. They wont know what you are stating above.
They call themselves politically neutral, "like Jesus and the early Christians" they say.
The facts show otherwise. JWs are one of the most litigious groups of non voting citizens of our time. Especially shocking when you look at what a "young" organization they are. They came out of the gate aggressively pursuing their "rights" as they see it.
does anyone have any theories why our territory that's be reduced six or seven times over the last twenty years is not covered anymore?
we use to cover our area in less than six months and now nobody really keeps track of how the preaching work by territory is going.
is the advent of the mobile-literature machine why we don't see a zealous preaching spirit?
Dont worry.
If need be, the rocks will cry out.
It says so in the Bible.
i found this video segment to be very interesting.
substitute jw for mormon and russell/rutherford for smith and you have a very good comparison.
maybe post-jw's could all meet up at a blood bank for coffee.. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/2015/06/26/june-26-2015-former-mormons/26293/.
This quote from Joe134s first link- sounds just like the Org....
The church has a very progressive research and information division, with tremendous public opinion surveyors," he said. Among other steps, it has hired an expert in search-engine optimization to raise the profile of the church's own views in a web search.
observing our local unemployed pioneers and how long they take to get to their first or next call, usually taking the longest route to get to one they know won't be there anyway.
along the way it's gossipy this and that.
pioneers?
I love that QB LOL
Of the categories you gave, I was definitely phantom pioneer.
After years of figuring out how to navigate the pioneer system, I learned to make my own arrangements. I had lots of studies and I was always willing to drive and pay for the gas.
I didnt meet with the group for morning service which helped a lot!
a car group out in service stopped by.
we don't even live in the territory,not even close.
we happened to be outside with the kids playing.
I agree with Faye, that is mortifying when it happens (I had a similar visit recently) but I love your take on it "out of the mouth of babes" indeed! LOL
So they told you to train them now so you wont have problems later and yet 2/3 of all JW kids flee the Org when they can.
So what good does all that "training" do?
You sound like you are doing the wise thing....might as well relax and raise your children to be good people and enjoy cake!
