I just went back and read your story.
You have done really well with your life and 10 years is noteworthy
good for you done4
i mentally awoke.
it took another 6 months or so to walk away for good, but this date marked the end of my belief in any conventional sense of the word.. d4g.
I just went back and read your story.
You have done really well with your life and 10 years is noteworthy
good for you done4
with all this talk about selling existing kingdom halls and robbing the congregations of savings accounts.
massive relocation of headquarters selling over a billion in prime real estate, gobbling up property and getting all the free labor they can from the rank and file slaves to fix up these properties and donate more and more money to cover the cost.. it looks like they are in the process of some type cannibalization of its self in an effort of self preservation.. are we on the cusps of a giant fire sale as the lawsuits pile up and build pressure i suspect things will get far worse leaving many congregations kingdom halless and traveling greater distances just to make a meeting every once and a while when they have enough gas money.. with a royal charities commission inquiry into inappropriate conduct of the wt corporation and loss of charity status and the eventual loss of such operational status in one country after another things are looking very bleak for this end of the world jehovah scam cult with it 1914,1975,2000, expiration dates long past..
I SO hope you are right!
I would love to see them scared and running. It would be a good case of karma happening swiftly.
I just worry that they have resources we dont even know about, which how could we since they keep us all in the dark about pretty much everything!
I think this even more after reading OrphanCrows thread which started out being about blood but following the money trail - wow - theres some big money there behind the scenes...
Then there was the thread about Haniph Latchman and the fiber optic technology he sold them for ten dollars was it? But what they plan to do with that up in the New York country side is stupendous to consider.
So I really dont know but I would love nothing better for them to fail and fall flat on their arrogant collective face.
with all this talk about selling existing kingdom halls and robbing the congregations of savings accounts.
massive relocation of headquarters selling over a billion in prime real estate, gobbling up property and getting all the free labor they can from the rank and file slaves to fix up these properties and donate more and more money to cover the cost.. it looks like they are in the process of some type cannibalization of its self in an effort of self preservation.. are we on the cusps of a giant fire sale as the lawsuits pile up and build pressure i suspect things will get far worse leaving many congregations kingdom halless and traveling greater distances just to make a meeting every once and a while when they have enough gas money.. with a royal charities commission inquiry into inappropriate conduct of the wt corporation and loss of charity status and the eventual loss of such operational status in one country after another things are looking very bleak for this end of the world jehovah scam cult with it 1914,1975,2000, expiration dates long past..
Sadly, I think they have a lot of resources left to them.
I do think they have been caught off guard a bit by the internet exposing them so much. The resultant drop in active involved members is part that and part the general religious apathy of people.
They probably always thought people would just come because after all, they are "OF GOD" but no, people arent - what a shock to them.
So they know two things
1) They got the money they have through long ago real estate choices in Brooklyn
2) Print is out IT and social media is in
So their knee jerk running behind response to that is huge screens at conventions and a full on design team and building work.
Its like DOC said - reactive
But theyve got lots and lots of resources in money and believers at this point.
I personally hope the pedophile cases keep coming because that drains them of dollars and people at the same time.
photo was posted on jw-archive.
j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.
in fribourg, switzerland..
please give reasons for all the lurkers.
and why does shunning show the same attitude as the pharisees?
When a disfellowshipping occurs, parents are not supposed to talk to children or children to parents.
What makes this exceedingly abnormal scripturally is the fact that the family arrangement was created by God. It precedes everything as outlined in Genesis.
Who decided disfellowshipping could trump that?
The Bible didnt.
i hope everyone is having a good saturday.
i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!
needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.
why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?
why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?
they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.
I have a deep suspicion that no one is writing any new articles.
I think they are copy/pasting from existing articles and books with fresh intro sentences here and there.
The material doesnt have a fresh feel to it at all.
so i clicked on the mormon come-on advertisement on the top, the right side and the bottom of the jwd page that invited me to "come chat about jesus christ".. i started a chat with brook and taiza and asked them why the subtitle of the book of mormon changed from "another gospel of jesus christ" to "another testament of jesus christ".. brooke told me it hadn't so i googled it and told them there's plenty of websites that refer to it that way and i had a very old copy with that subtitle on it.. so taiza says it's probably a copy by some break off group and not from them.. i told her the inside said from the "lds".
so they left the chat.. so i figured maybe there's a technical glitch and i shouldn't assume they just dropped me.. so i log on again and give my last name instead of my first name this time.. and hellen and catherine log into the channel.. i ask them again about the title change and they drop off the chat.. so i figured twice is very unlikely that they had a glitch, and i'm pretty sure they dropped me because they didn't like my question.. one more time, i'll give them one more try.. so i log on again, with my middle name this time.. brooke and jayne log on.. i type that i'd been chatting previously with brooke.. she types back that she's a different brooke.. so jayne starts asking if i read the book of mormon.. i say yes and i have a question about it.. so i ask my question about the "another gospel" to 'another testament" change.. she says that she does not recall ever hearing about that and what do i like about the book of mormon.. i then ask her about the "gospel" paul wrote about in corinthians.. she says it's the same as in the book of mormon.. i ask back that if the gospel is the "same" why call it another???
and i quote her galatians 1:8.. she says that it does not apply to the book of mormon since it is not different from the bible so therefore, it is not another good news.. but that is the subtitle of the book isn't it.. so she sends me a link to a two minute video by the lds telling of the finding of the tablets and the transcription from reformed egyptian to english by joseph smith.. i started questioning whether reformed egyptian was a real language.
I dont think I would try a chat because Im not quick enough on my feet cerebrally speaking
Sounds like you did a great job though. I guess one way you can tell is when they drop the chat. That reminds me of the brothers at Bethel that hang up the phone when they feel uncomfortable enough.
its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
This is great info Darth,
I especially like #2
why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?
why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?
they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.
Good point.
I was trying to think if an answer they might give to the statement in the thread title.
I wonder if they would say that the basics are in place. No trinity, no burning hell, immortality of the soul, definition of earthly class/144,000 all in place
So they might say that all they have to do is monitor.
In that case, how is the light growing brighter?
Why do the flock have to attend each and every meeting?
Why cant they just "maintain" too?