Posts by MoeJoJoJo

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A Storm is a Brewin'

by Farkel in

i found this little gem from the january 2002 km thanks to stephanus: .

january 2000 kingdom ministry now up.

i present it in all its deception (together with my ever-so-humble observations) for your reading enjoyment: .

MoeJoJoJo

I would love to be able to do this:

look them straight in the eye and tell them they are full of shit.

Thanks for the post Farkel

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The Loving Elders

by MoeJoJoJo in

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this is what has been happening with us lately.

we (my husband and i) have not been to any meetings in over a year.

the elders have stopped by quite often (once they stopped by and they were here from 10:30 12:00, they left the others in their car group, out in the car the whole time!!

This is what has been happening with us lately. We (my husband and I) have not been to any meetings in over a year. The elders have stopped by quite often (once they stopped by and they were here from 10:30 12:00, they left the others in their car group, out in the car the whole time!! I did not know that there were others out there until the elders were leaving, I thought that was very inconsiderate. I saw people in the backseat as they were pulling out of the drive.)

Well, that was the last time I talked with the elders-they told me I had turned my back on God, etc. etc. I did not appreciate any thing they said, it was not very encouraging to say the least. Of course, I had already made up my mind that it wasnt the truth so anything they said had no effect except to irritate me.

The elders keep stopping by but my husband always answers the door when its them. My husband told them basically that he does not feel that the organization is Gods. He mentioned the association with the UN and the child molestation problems. (The elders did not know about the UN involvement at the time, BTW)

The last time they stopped by they asked him why he doesnt write a letter of DA. He told them that he will not DA but will not have association. They keep trying to get info to DF are we celebrating birthdays, and holidays? He will not give them a direct answer, asks questions in reply to their questions.

They stopped by again this Saturday and talked with him again and asked if he believes it is Gods organization, again he said no. They have tried to show him that God has always used an organization and that the men have all been imperfect, you know, the same-old, sad story.

When they left they said they would meet with the body of elders and make a decision but that this could not be left for another six months. My husband asked what that meant, if they were going to DF, they said no they didnt have anything to DF him for but that they would read a letter to the congregation stating that he no longer wanted to be known as a JW, but they would have to meet with the elder body first before making a decision.

Sounds like they are basically giving him the axe, they are so afraid hell talk to other members of the cong. and share what he knows.

Whats your opinion, what should we do? Do you think theyll come after me next?

I told my husband that they are such loving people, getting rid of those who were stumbled by the Governing Body, after all the UN scandal and molestation policy were major factors in our leaving. How happy we are that we were stumbled. But how sad it is going to be if our family wont speak to us anymore. Practically all of my husbands family are JWs.

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Joseph Frantz (Hyghlandyr) To be Disfellowshipped?

by Hyghlandyr in

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they left a note.

he is the one that kept trying to get me to state i wanted to da myself.

to which evil elder kept trying to get me to da.

MoeJoJoJo

Hygh, I like your style.

The elders have been trying to get a DA letter from us recently also. I have refused to talk with them anymore but my husband does, I don't know why he feels the need to. They stop by unannounced which really irritates me.

They keep trying to get info from him that they can disfellowship him on, he tells them the problem is that the WT leaders are a bunch of hypocrits (because of UN involvement) and because they protect child molesters. They can't DF him on that so they are seeking a DA. They want to meet with him again soon. I told him why bother.

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Embarrassed

by WildTurkey in

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sometimes when i think back about when i was a dub, i get a little embarrassed.

i remember telling my kids not to draw on watchtower mags (i also had to tell their mother) i was a grown man and would let nerd elders counsel me for dumb things, like saying the word luck, or bulletin board.

i remember getting to the end of the month and not having the cong average field service time and start to worry what the other elders and co would say.

MoeJoJoJo

I am embarrassed that as a thinking adult I remained in the organization even tho there was a small voice in the back of my mind telling me something was not quite right. As a JW child, I had no choice. As an adult, I did have a choice and I could kick myself for not listening to my brain before. Better late than never.

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Missing the Target for 125 Years!

by JanH in

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missing the target for 125 years .

the organization that more than 5 million jehovah's witnesses believe to be "god's channel" of communication to mankind, is strangely also the organization with a monumental record of failed predictions.

after examining dozens of watch tower society (wts) predictions we failed to find a single one that was right.

MoeJoJoJo

Excellent Jan! Thank you, I'm saving this one. You condensed everything nicely and included references.

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

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i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

MoeJoJoJo

Comf, that was profoundly wise advice. Windchaser repeated the best part.

Thanks

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

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i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

MoeJoJoJo

What is true and what is a lie? After being a witness my whole life and finding out all the lies my trust has been completly crushed. Can we ever fully put are trust in any religion again?

Annalice, good question, it weighs heavy on my mind as well.

Thanks to everyone for your comments. Being raised as a JW most of the info I ever read or heard about other religions came from the Society and of course they always portrayed all other religions as evil and wicked.

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What Are Your Beliefs?

by MoeJoJoJo in

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i am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.. since leaving the org, i feel i am still in a limbo state, i'm not quite sure of what i believe yet.

i believed a lie most of my life which i'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.. i do feel there is a superior being who created us all.

i am still trying to sort things out.. so if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.?

MoeJoJoJo

I am very curious in what everyone believes as far as religious beliefs.

Since leaving the org, I feel I am still in a limbo state, I'm not quite sure of what I believe yet. I believed a lie most of my life which I'm sure most of you can relate with, so its not so easy for me to jump right into something else.

I do feel there is a superior being who created us all. I am still trying to sort things out.

So if you care to share, are you atheist, pagan, christian, etc.? Could you list some of your basic beliefs and how you came to believe as such? Like I said I am very interested and if something makes sense to me and sounds reasonable, I would explore it furthur.

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Enjoy the Fireworks

by dubla in

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the weekend is here....have a great 4th for all those celebrating!.

click here for some virtual fireworks >>> .

http://www.fireworks.com/interactive/fireworks_show/default.asp.

MoeJoJoJo

You too dubla!

This is our first year actually celebrating (we would always go to the fireworks displays as JWs tho).

We have been invited to a neighborhood block party. I'm making a flag cake to take, its iced with Cool Whip and then you decorate it with blueberries and strawberries to look like the American Flag. We all pitch in on the burgers & hotdogs. The kids will have a blast swimming all day. It'll be alot of fun.

Happy Fourth!!!!

Edited by - MoeJoJoJo on 3 July 2002 16:52:6

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JW Bus Accident on Way to Convention

by Mister Biggs in

it begs the questions:.

how many on that bus were happy that they either didn't end up going to the convention or got there late?

(i would have been happy!!!).

MoeJoJoJo

Hahaha Biggs, I can see it now.

And all the while they keep praising Jehovah for saving their lives.