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  Two sex questions

  by Seeker4 in

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  2. relationships

  ok, have had enough to drink tonight so i will toss these two questions out.

  will discuss this a bit more tomorrow.. 1. how many of you had sex outside of your marriage after leaving the witnesses?

  provide whatever details about how and why that you're comfortable with.. 2. funny question: had a friend write me today that probably more jws per capita enjoyed oral sex the night they read it was a "conscience matter" than any other group in the us.

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  mommy

  On the contrary, all social relationships require a little bit of dishonesty.

  You are right of course. Don't you get sick of that?hehe
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  The fifth column

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is the one thing that the witlesses have and rely one?.

  isn't it the 'fellowship' and the 'love'... a 'uniting bond of unity' (puke).. what if they didn't have it??.

  i mean, what if, when someone visited a hall for the first time, they weren't welcomed with open arms and 'love-bombed' / conned into their clutches.

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  That is a really cool idea! Anyone wanna join me for a Sunday meeting in the upstate NY area?

  On a side note, when I moved to another state, I went to the KH the first weekend I came. I was all alone, had my bible, Watchtower, and dressed appropriatly. I was sitting in the hall thinking, "What am I doing here?" I felt like I was in the twilight Zone, it was a carbon copy of every other congregation I had ever been to. The same people, the same drone like characters, the same fake smiles on faces riddles with wrinkles. I was approached by two people, and even hung around after the meeting a bit. I went to the lit counter and was going to ask for a change for my subscription, and order some mags. I was standing in line still feeling like I was in a weird episode of Smile you are on Candid camera, when I walked out. I left and never looked back.

  I am sooooo glad I did that.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Two sex questions

  by Seeker4 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  ok, have had enough to drink tonight so i will toss these two questions out.

  will discuss this a bit more tomorrow.. 1. how many of you had sex outside of your marriage after leaving the witnesses?

  provide whatever details about how and why that you're comfortable with.. 2. funny question: had a friend write me today that probably more jws per capita enjoyed oral sex the night they read it was a "conscience matter" than any other group in the us.

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  Does this make sense?

  
  PERFECT sense! I understand you fully now, thank you for divulging further. I think that honesty and revealing to your wife is very important. You know that there are things you have kept from her so as not to cause her pain. Just perhaps she is also keeping things from you. Perhaps she has silenced her own desires because of the vow she made 2o+ years ago as well. I think it is only fair in a relationship that you are 100% honest even if it causes pain. If you are honest then mistrust is easier to get over, and the healing begins quicker.

  Thanks you Seeker4 for sharing this with us My first husband cheated on me, and then lied about it, even though I had proof that he had done this. Perhaps if he has admitted to me openly and honestly we would still be together now. I didn't need all the details, just a reason to start believing him again. Then again..probably not I was very young and immature then, and didn't have the time you had invested in your relationship.

  I hope you and your wife can stick close together during this time, it seems you both are going through alot right now. I loved the fact that you admit to not being able to say you won't ever cheat again! BRAVO
  wendy

  PS. I just want to say when I read your confession earlier, my opinion of you was not very high. See I have a few pet peeves in my life that I will not bend about. One of them is adultry. I want you to know that even though I am strongly against it, you have shown me another side of it. Thank you.

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Christian love, my @$$

  by mindfield in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  indeed... since i decided that i wouldn't be a publisher any longer and make no more talks, i've noticed more people avoiding me, talking less to me, etc.

  i mean, what is this crap?

  i wasn't baptized, i still maintain exemplary behaviour, etc.

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  Geez even the dog said Hi!
  (((((fed up)))))

  On a side note~Edward Gentry...that was very, very mean! You big bully you.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Blood Type

  by Christina77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  is it normal for those that refuse blood to not know their blood type?

  that is usually one of the first things that the hospital lets parents know about their kids and when you go for any blood work it is on the top of the sheet.

  i have a very rare blood type and i questioned my boyfriend about his for future knowlege when we have kids.

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  Christina,
  I just spent the last half an hour reading that post. I must say, I wish you luck. There is nothing I can add that hasn't been said already.
  . http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12749&site=3#180649
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  How Do You Handle Hypocrisy?

  by GinnyTosken in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how do you handle hypocrisy?

  appears in the november 15, 2001 watchtower.

  the article intrigues me because instead of a clear-cut condemnation of hypocrisy, the article wavers back and forth.. first, the writer defines hypocrisy:.

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  "There is nothing covered over that will not become uncovered," said Jesus Christ, "and secret that will not become known." (Matthew 10:26; Luke 12:2)

  WOOHOO I love it Thanks for posting this Ginny, it was a great read.
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  joke time

  by BATHORY in

  1. social
  2. humour

  this ones for unc.

  a team of archaeologists was excavating in israel when they came upon a cave.

  you see, im a genie, and ive been trapped in that bottle for a thousand years.

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  Bathory
  Thanks for the chuckles...some of them were pretty good
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  Must See Post!

  by mommy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every now and again there is a post that just pulls the rug out from underneath me, and touches a place in my heart.

  lauralisa on another thread has accomplished this.

  by others who have replied, i can see that they were touched as well.

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  Sorry Fred, I fixed the post now. Those were actually Lauralisa'a words. So tell me what is off base about this? Care to enlighten me, how a person's personal experience and journey they have taken can be judged by another?
  wendy

  Blind faith can justify anything.~Richard Dawkins
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  I've Had It - I Just Can't Do it Anymore

  by troubled in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, it seems we're back to the same "you're a troll; you're not a troll" thing.

  it seems that my posts make too many of you "uncomfortable," you have an "intuition," you "can't put your finger on it," whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  i thought this was a place where people can post and be heard.

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  Lauralisa,
  I hope you don't mind I reposted your post for any who might have missed it. WOW I really appreciated reading it!

  Troubled,
  You know there are many here who have offered you help. But ultimately it is up to you. I wish you luck no matter what you decide.
  wendy
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  Must See Post!

  by mommy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every now and again there is a post that just pulls the rug out from underneath me, and touches a place in my heart.

  lauralisa on another thread has accomplished this.

  by others who have replied, i can see that they were touched as well.

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  mommy

  Every now and again there is a post that just pulls the rug out from underneath me, and touches a place in my heart. Lauralisa on another thread has accomplished this. By others who have replied, I can see that they were touched as well. I don't want this one to slide by, and brought it up here for all to read. Enjoy Lauralisa what a brave soul you are for sharing this with all, I so enjoyed reading this. Thank you

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  I may be completely off-base, but I am wondering if you are able to relate to any of the following:

  a. The WTBTS is very convincing in its claim to be the one organizational entity on the planet that has the key to understanding the bible. It is very difficult to find another religion as organized, cohesive, distinct, etc. when it comes to "packaging" biblical doctrine. At one time I was exquisitely convinced beyond any doubt that finally I'd found the Truth. Along with this conviction came relief, hope, a system around which to organize my thoughts and fears, and a sense of security -something I'd searched for my entire life and had not found.

  b. The WTBTS requires absolute loyalty to its "current" and finite "data base"- for lack of a better term - when it comes to addressing ALL problems that ALL people on the whole planet may encounter in this life here and now.

  c. There is an assumption that the FDS has, and can, provide guidelines, advice, support, wisdom regarding, answers and help for every human difficulty. Many, many people, I among them, have found themselves in positions however where they contend with serious emotional or mental health concerns; these concerns can be so grave that chronic clinical depression, suicidal ideation and attempts, and other resultant physical ailments (immunological disorders, eg) interfere with their ability to function on a day to day basis.

  d. The WTBTS has consistently been unable to address or amend or accommodate their members who suffer to such degrees. In fact, it is my experience and I know it is also common to many others that the WTBTS' advice, admonitions, existing volumes of articles meant to address these conditions actually result in exacerbating the sufferer's situation and pain.

  So, there is a huge dilemma. I spent ten years waiting for the "spiritual food at the right time" to kick in and lessen the daily struggle to survive. I'd always been depressed my whole life, but it was only after becoming a publisher that my "difficulties" required hospitalization. Life became an endurance game. I tried everything. It cost me everything in the process. I finally got to the point where I didn't even care if I was going to survive armaggeddon, or be resurrected, or see "paradise".... I fell away, and basically just got back into the "world".

  Then my depression lifted. I got a job, after being on disability for seven years, and loved it. I quit taking the 300 mg of Zoloft a day and the Klonopin and all of the other crap and rediscovered life with libido. I fell in love. I got to the point where I couldn't even remember what it felt like to have to fight suicidal impulses anymore.... I took down all of the post-it notes around my tiny apartment reminding me that my children needed their mother alive.....

  It's been a whole year, and an excrutiatingly stressful one (as it has been for all people) but I've had no fears of a relapse. I never knew I could feel this good.

  I have compassion for anyone who struggles with the desire to "go back" to the organization because it is their heart-felt belief that it is the only way to truly serve God; I have never tried to convince anyone I've known from the hall to leave. (Then again, it's not like they would ever talk to me.) On the other hand, I've got the clarity of thought to know, and I mean KNOW, that the organization that claims itself to be God's only channel and mouthpiece is NOT. Separation from the controlling fear tactics has given me the ability to look at the very real, entirely legitimate credibility issues that exist regarding it... issues that are blatant and in need of exposure.

  I don't have the security of feeling like I've got access to "absolute truth" like I did before, but I do know that I can participate in this human existence thing without hating every single day and cursing the day I was born, begging for the opportunity to die, and being a continual drain on the few remaining friends I was able to maintain ties with. I love to get up in the morning.

  Well, after all that blah blah. I think the point I'm trying to make is that you are NOT going to find a resolution to your very understandable concerns either within the borg, or on this board; your search for healing and relief is obvious and respectable... I think everyone who comes here for any length of time would like to know the same things you do, but we are all having to find our own way, in our own time... and you are going to have to make your own choices, based on your own reasoning ability. I for one wish you well, and would like to know how things go for you.

  love, lauralisa

  It's only water from a stranger's tear (Peter Gabriel)