Posts by discreetslave

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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

by InterestedOne in

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in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

mistakes will happen.

concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

discreetslave

I've told CJW to stop sending me a PM like most JW's he's not listening. This is what he had to say regarding JW's & mind control

You can quote mind-control stuff but it simply doesn't apply. It's like trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. We as witnesses have explicit biblical beliefs for anyone to see and read. There is no mind-control. That is a very weak argument from this site.

CJW this is not the site for you. If you want a discussion regarding JW's & the Bible check out some of these other sites.

4jehovah.org

towerwatch.org

paradisecafediscussions.net

e-watchman.com

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VERY depressed

by youngbro in

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i have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....

discreetslave

That's great to here but be forewarned this is not going to be easy. You need to fortify yourself coming out of darkness is different for everyone. For some the darkness looms longer. I will repeat this you must fortify yourself. When Jesus said the truth will set you free he was right. You need to prove the truth about this religion to yourself. Become well informed. Question others here, READ, READ, READ.

Here are some suggestions :

Crisis of Cinscience by Ray Franz

Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan

Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron

www.ustream.tv/channel/cult-free-radio

If you still wish to remain a Christian

Towerwatch.org

4Jehovah.org

Feel free to PM me

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Things to inspire JW Youth...We're rooting for you

by discreetslave in

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jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.

only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d2w-enhvdk.

discreetslave

Thanks for putting up the link guys.

Remember don't let anyone put out the spark in you even in the name of God.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw&feature=related

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I am so hurt and angry

by Igot2bme in

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this fake ass religion has costed me so much but now it has turned my son away from me.

i am so hurt, my heart is broke, and feel completly defeated.

he refuses to call me, blocked me on my facebook account, and went back to the people in the org who threw him under the bus, called him names, slandered him, stole from him and these were so called brothers and sisters!

discreetslave

My heart goes out to you. What you are facing is my fear. I wish I had some words of wisdom all I can offer is comfort.

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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

by InterestedOne in

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in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

mistakes will happen.

concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

discreetslave

Concerned JW said"Please look at verse 14 "but as for you, continue in what you learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you have learned it."

So why do you preach to people who have already learned & are convinced of what they believe re the Bible?

When Paul said this he was speaking of himself & others who taught the truth about Christ. JW's are just another religion who like others have good & bad, falsehood & truth. What makes JWs stand out is the damage they cause to people. JW are a small religion too small to have the problems it does and claim to be God's only means of salvation. By your fruits you will know them Jesus said. The feelings of hurt & betrayal on this board is but a small sample of the rotten fruit the WBTS has produced. You called the information I sent to you ex-jw fodder. That's the pot calling the kettle black.

The damage that was caused us & our families is too serious to say mistakes will happen. Yes humans are imperfect but your Governing Body & it's slave never admit to their own mistakes. They put themselves on a pedesatal and expect JW's to eat the crap that falls. I want to be nice to you sincerely want to help you know what a real relationship with God is like. This is not the time for you. You are not ready and I doubt you ever will be.

I don't agree with everything on this forum but that's life. We agree to disagree. That's what makes humans different. Yes many here no longer believe in God but that's their right. Just as it is yours to continue with a cancer of a religion. My belief in God in no way can tolerate any religion that so blasphemes his name.

If you are on this board solely to preach JW fodder, you are wasting your time. If you are here to count field service time then shame on you. If you are a true blue JW shame on you because your masters in Brooklyn have told you to stay away from us.

DO NOT PM ME ANYMORE UNLESS YOU ARE IN NEED OF HELP TO BREAK FREE FROM THE BOTCHTOWER.

If I'm out of line I apologize to the board but this guy is getting on my nerves.

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Still Amazed to Have Escaped

by leavingwt in

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i escaped the wt more than three years ago.

yet, even today, i'm still amazed, surprised and thankful that i got out.

it's easy for me to imagine having never getting the information i needed to make a clean break.

discreetslave

Freedom is amazing!!!

There were questions here & there but being a true believer I would not allow myself to think anything ill of God's organization. I like how Zoiks put it "In my mind, individuals could err and show bad traits, but Jehovah's Organization was always right and Jehovah would take care of everything."

March of this year I realized I had the heavenly hope & my awakening began I started to realize the teachings don't make sense. In April I read Crisis of Conscience, found Watchtower Comments, FreeMinds & Watchtower Documents and I reached out to Barbara Anderson. The thought of my having been betrayed landed me in the psych ward from the stress. I still could not allow myself to believe I had been lied to. I tried to look for reasons to stay and only found more reasons to go.

In June I read In Search of Christian Freedom and found JWFacts. One month ago today I started to browse this site looking for someone I knew who went thru what I was now experiencing. The next day I came across the thread with Donny's Bethel pics. I emailed him and he was a great help. I joined this forum after I read Cruzanheart's letter of disassociation www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/47789/1/My-Letter-to-the-Elders-in-My-Late-Fathers-Congregation. That letter brought me to tears. 2 weeks later I wrote my own and am now free.

I look forward to having years free behind me. I want to pay it forward and hope to be of help to someone else.

I hope for my husbands freedom.

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DO NOT have children in this system!!

by What Now? in

growing up, this is something that my other always told me.

i've had several conversations with older sisters who have said that if they could do things over, they wouldn't have had children.

other couples my own age are horrified at the thought of raising children in "this system".

discreetslave

My in-laws went back & forth whether or not to have kids 1975 was so close. My husband never pictured himself having children. I was back & forth. My body wanted to have babies but my JW mind kept saying no I should pursue full time service.

Well on a weekend trip we left the condoms and we could not wait to go to the store in the morning. My girl was born 9 mths later. My sick JW mind actually resented her at times since I could not balance motherhood & pioneering. I'm grateful for an older sister who counseled me. She said "You are fulfilling God's original purpose to hell with pioneering. What good is it to pioneer & risk ruining your child's childhood? Have you ever considered how many pioneers children don't stay in the truth? Pioneer after she's grown up until then she is your priority. "

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Things to inspire JW Youth...We're rooting for you

by discreetslave in

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jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.

only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d2w-enhvdk.

discreetslave

I know Why The Caged Bird Sings By Maya Angelou

The free bird leaps
on the back of the win
and floats downstream
till the current ends
and dips his wings
in the orange sun rays
and dares to claim the sky.

But a bird that stalks
down his narrow cage
can seldom see through
his bars of rage
his wings are clipped and
his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.

The caged bird sings
with fearful trill
of the things unknown
but longed for still
and is tune is heard
on the distant hillfor the caged bird
sings of freedom

The free bird thinks of another breeze
an the trade winds soft through the sighing trees
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn-bright lawn
and he names the sky his own.

But a caged bird stands on the grave of dreams
his shadow shouts on a nightmare scream
his wings are clipped and his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing

The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.

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What has the WT$ TAKEN from you?

by VampireDCLXV in

if you've been around here long enough, you will have seen people saying how they "gave up" or "sacrificed" certain things so that they could be good little jws.

what about those of us who were growing up in it and we didn't even have a choice in the matter?

what about those of us from whom some things in life were forcibly ripped away, things that 'normal' people take for granted in their life?.

discreetslave

I know that if I had known about Russell's ties with the occult I wouldn't have gotten baptized. Yet if I had not become a witness I wouldn't have my husband and our kids. So I wouldn't alter history either.

I gave up a dramatic arts scholarship and for a while I gave up on being myself and happiness.

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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

by InterestedOne in

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in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

mistakes will happen.

concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

discreetslave

Same Here I have lots of good memories and it saved my life as a teenager. I wasn't looking for an excuse to leave either I just learned The Truth about "The Truth". As a JW I learned to stand up for God & his word & that's what I did by leaving.