Posts by discreetslave

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Who's Your Favorite Comedian?

by minimus in

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friends

i love people like jackie mason, larry david, chris rock and others that make you think about the absurdities in life.. who do you enjoy?.

discreetslave

Robin Williams / Chris Rock/ Jim Carrey/ George Carlin / Steve Colbert / The original SNL Players

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i finally put a couple of pieces together that have boggled me for years.. i would take my family to the conventions and assemblies and for some reason, my wife would always be upset or start an argument in the car on the way home, or in the week that follows.

i realize now that her frustration is that i am not the guy in the demonstrations.

you know, the guy who has the bestfriend/elder who always says the perfect thing and the guy is so humble and does this little talks-to-himself thing where he reveals his deep spirituality and applies the ever-so-wise words of his friend and after that life is just great again!.

discreetslave

@ Stillin sorry you can't see the cycle chart (odd I can see it) I'll cut & paste info

The high standards set for JW's can lead to unhappiness and a feeling of unfulfillment. I found myself guilty of these things even though I loved my husband. From the day I broke free from the JW mindset our relationship has improved. We're like newlyweds. My husband remaining kind and loving despite my being a bitch at times made it easy to beg his forgiveness and work towards a healthy relationship. My husband is still in JW land but I hope that the improvement in our relationship despite my leaving the religion will help him wake up.

Cycle of Abuse (hubbardhouse.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/the-cycle-of-abuse/)
1st phase Tension Builds - Criticism, Yelling,Swearing, Coercion, Anger

The tension building stage begins when the abuser becomes increasingly controlling. It can take days, weeks, or even years for this stage to evolve and progress. Most of the time the tension-building stage does not happen until a couple has known each other for a long period of time, after the couple moves in together or gets married. The victim frequently feels like he or she is “walking on eggshells,” and tends to accommodate the abuser in order to keep peace or please the abuser. The tension and control increase, cultivating into the abuse stage.

2nd phase Explosion - Attacks & threats (verbal, emotional,physical,sexual)

The explosion stage is a major verbally, emotionally or physically abusive incident that is instigated by the abuser. After a long tension-building stage, a certain event is usually the trigger of the explosion stage. This is the shortest stage, but often increases in severity each time through the cycle. During this time, it is not safe for the victim to fight back or retaliate; the victim can only wait it out. Victims often deny or minimize the seriousness of the injuries to the abuser to soothe them or avoid further abuse.

3rd Phase Honeymoon period - Apologies, promises, blaming, gifts

The last stage is the remorse/honeymoon phase. The abuser has calmed down and is very apologetic about his or her behavior. They promise they will never do it again and convince themselves and the victim they are serious this time about changing. The abuser is often very loving and kind, even promising to get help. This stage can very confusing and emotional for victims because they are seeing the caring and loving side of the partner they originally fell in love with. The abuser may blame him or herself for the explosion and gives hope to the victim that this is the last time.

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Is my son being attacked by Satan!!!

by discreetslave in

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friends

a few days ago my 2 year old said to me " i don't want to go with daddy, i don't like the kingdom hall.

i want to stay with you mommy.".

now poor baby has boils on his butt!!

discreetslave

Maybe this outfit will make going to meetings fun!!!

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Things to inspire JW Youth...We're rooting for you

by discreetslave in

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friends

jehovah's witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition.

only 37% of all those who say they were raised as jehovah's witnesses still identify themselves as jehovah's witnesses.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d2w-enhvdk.

discreetslave

Do you have doubts? Do you feel the teachings are confusing? Are you curious about other religions? These feelings are normal. What's not normal is to be forced to believe in something. Question everything & learn to think for yourself.

Are you being pressured to make progress or get baptized? Don't give in to the pressure hang in there & plan for college.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4A1K4lXDo

[Michael]
I'm Tired of injustice
I'm Tired of the schemes
it's kinda disgusting.
what does it mean damn it.
Kicking me down
I got to get up
As jacked as it sounds
The whole system sucks

[Janet]
Peek in the shadow
I Come into the light
You tell me I'm wrong
Then you better prove you're right
You're sellin' out souls but
I care about mine
I've got to get stronger
And I won't give up the fight

[Michael]
With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream(Make you wanna scream)
You're bash abusin' victimize within the scheme
(Janet)
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize

[Both chours]2X
Somebody please have mercy
'Cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin' me
Just stop pressurin' me
Stop pressurin' me
Make me wanna scream
Stop pressurin' me
Just stop pressurin' me
Stop pressurin' me
Make me wanna scream

[Michael]
Tired of you tellin' the story your way
It's causin' confusion
You think it's okay

[Janet]
You changin' the rules
While I keep playin' the game
I can't take it much longer
I think Ima go insane

[Michael]
With such confusions, don't it make you wanna scream(make you wanna scream)
Your bash abusin' victimize within' the scheme
(Janet)
You find your pleasure scandalizin' every lie
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/scream-lyrics.html ]

[Both chours]2X
Oh father, please have mercy 'cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin' me
Just stop pressurin' me
Stop pressurin' me
Make me wanna scream
Stop pressurin' me
Just stop pressurin' me
Stop f**' with me
Make me wanna scream

[Janet]
"Oh my God, can't believe what I saw
As I turned on the TV, the city
I was disgusted by all the injustice
All the injustice"

[Michael]
"All the injustice"

[News Man]
"A man has been brutally beaten to death by
Police after being wrongly identified as a
robbery suspect. The man was
an 18 year old black male..."

[Michael]
With such collusions don't it make you wanna scream(make you wanna scream)
Your bash abusin' victimize within the scheme
[Janet]
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize

[Both chours]2X
Oh brother please have mercy 'Cause I just can't take it
Stop pressurin' me
Just stop pressurin' me
Stop pressurin' me
Make me wanna scream

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I am thinking of writing a book. Would you read it?

by ekruks in

jw
friends

i had a nervous breakdown, growing up in a very strict, abusive religious community that you know of.. .

living throughout the world in modern 21st-century cities, we strongly believe the end of the world is nigh due to moral decline, and thoroughly follow a moral code which i respect, seeing drugs etc.

do harm people.

discreetslave

I would, everyone needs to get their story out.

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Songs that express feelings towards Watchtower

by discreetslave in

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friends

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjffzqtlwrq&nr=1.

discreetslave

Picturing the fall of Watchtower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg&feature=related

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Is my son being attacked by Satan!!!

by discreetslave in

jw
friends

a few days ago my 2 year old said to me " i don't want to go with daddy, i don't like the kingdom hall.

i want to stay with you mommy.".

now poor baby has boils on his butt!!

discreetslave

Poor baby he's in so much pain. Instead of getting behind him Satan is on his behind.

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assemblies and my lovely wife

by stillin in

i finally put a couple of pieces together that have boggled me for years.. i would take my family to the conventions and assemblies and for some reason, my wife would always be upset or start an argument in the car on the way home, or in the week that follows.

i realize now that her frustration is that i am not the guy in the demonstrations.

you know, the guy who has the bestfriend/elder who always says the perfect thing and the guy is so humble and does this little talks-to-himself thing where he reveals his deep spirituality and applies the ever-so-wise words of his friend and after that life is just great again!.

discreetslave

When one is unfulfilled, unhappy, guilty or ashamed over something they can take it out on their mates.

This was true of me. I was unhappy. I couldn't live up to the JW dream and I took out my frustration by picking on my husbands faults. The worse I felt the more I picked on him, the less I respected him and the less I wanted to have sex.

It would always get worse around assembly/dc time. Your supposed to put on the fake smiles and be the ideal couple despite having torn each other's head off the night before or that morning. You feel guilty for not being a good JW then you are presented with the ideal on the platform. The cycle goes on & on.

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Do JW Organization Mistakes Matter?

by InterestedOne in

after reading what concerned jw has to say, i gather that for him, if the jw organization is currently making any mistakes, those mistakes do not matter and are not worth naming, not even one.

i am completely baffled by this and would like to understand why a person would take this position.

concerned jw, can you please explain why you take this position?

discreetslave

Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost. Obey us at all cost.

To live forever you must hand over your earnings, turn off your humanity, conform, sacrifice your lives and that of your children.

We reserve the right to make mistakes and still be worshipped while you must suffer for yours.

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Sorry about this absolutley CRAZY insight to my mind.

by dm6 in

hello everybody.. even thinking about typing this thread as i lay here in bed at 11.30 at night, is hard enough, but i found some sort of motivation to do it.. i dont expect a massive response really, i guess all i really want to do is empty my mind out and stop things whirring over and over.. i am worried for my brother (younger brother he is 23) he is in guernsey channel islands (uk) and is in and out of intensive care drugs etc an there are a thousand more strings attached.

(drugdealers after him, homeless, jobless, about to go to prsion long story).

its a worry for me as his older brother.

discreetslave

I can totally understand where you are coming from. Unhappiness and suicidal tendencies were constant companions for the past 3 years. I know about inflicting pain on oneself just to feel anything other than the misery. It is a vicious and unrelenting cycle. Even when one manages to have a moment of light in the darkness one can make oneself feel guilty about it. "Why can''t I always feel this way?" or "I feel good what's going to happen next to make this go away?"

DM6 you are not alone in your feelings. The words "this too shall pass" can be true for you. Key is not losing hope. Everyone's journey to healing is an individual path. There is no one right way you just find what works for you.

I will say that starting with ones own self worth seems to be a common starting point. I know you worry about your bro but it is difficult to be a support for someone when you can't even hold yourself up. The instructions on an airplane to put the mask on yourself first in case of emergency then help others is true in life.

You did a good thing in expressing your feelings. In my case that is a huge help. Keep a journal(somthings can only be expressed in private), blog, post, draw, paint, sing, play an instrument, find anyway to get your feelings out. Another person to act as a sounding board is good also. You mentioned relationships are tough so that can be hard but so worth it in the end. Just start with one person.

Meds is a toss up. Many of us need them some temporarily & others permanantly. There is no shame diabetics are dependant on medicine to live. Same difference. In my case meds didn't work. I'm better off without them but that's me.

The following may not matter to you because your clouded in low self worth. I'm not just saying this nor am I flirting (married lady) but your pic reveals a cutie. I have a large screen and I looked up close you look good to me. I prefer Clark Kent to Superman that's me. Until the inside is healed you will view the outside from a skewed perspective.

I hope this was of help and I offer my friendship.