when i was growing up, i used to think that as long as they made fuzzy loving commercials (i.e.
the faygo one was my favorite & coke second) that the trib & big-a couldn't possibly come!!!
i also used to plan how i would hoard food & water in holes in my backyard that we wouldn't have to eat all the icky mice & insects my mom said we would have to live on.
My own thoughts were rather unpleasant.
But I remember my older brother took his hollow core bedroom door off the hinges and stufed a NWT bible (he had to trear the green covers off so that it would fit) inside the door and then re-hung it. That way when they came to take all of our liturature, etc. we would still have a bible.
I wonder if that door & bible are still there in that house.
hello all.. i've visited here a time or two but this is the first time i've posted.
been out for five years now.
left because i realized i was expected to be perfect and that just wasn't gonna happen.
Hey fluttergirl!
Welcome!
has anyone else tried salvia?
i recently tried this herb, which is a member of the sage family, via smoking it.
i must say that it is a psychedellic not for the faint of heart or one who fears the loss of control for several minutes at a time.
Now we all know what our fate is if you keep doing drugs. We will get out of touch with reality like Comfy. lol
Hey BeelzeDub--
I think the problem is when one stops taking drugs and starts bathing in blood.
IMHO
queereality
has anyone else tried salvia?
i recently tried this herb, which is a member of the sage family, via smoking it.
i must say that it is a psychedellic not for the faint of heart or one who fears the loss of control for several minutes at a time.
A "special apostafest"???
Oooooooh. I wanna come! Can Californians get invited? I've never been to Rhode Island. I'm not very fond of Texas.
I've got some similar -- uh, errr -- well, not exactly habits, per se. More like a slowly developing hobby. I have seen on the web where you can buy seeds or even a live plant. I've been meaning to track down that site...
I've never tried Salvia Divinorum. That is going to change very soon.
queereality
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kelsey007 wrote:
I have been exiled from my country for not following the laws or rules. After I have been removed from my country I start an anti campaign to expose the leaders of my country as frauds.Sitiing in exile I form an organization on the premise of aiding abuse victims of the government. I march outside the borders of the country. Then I draft a letter demanding that the rulers of the country submit to my counsel. I demand that they be brought before a judiciary that I will form.
Also consider that this country that I am exiled from is one of the smallest countries in the world. It is a passive nation. The do not battle with other countries though they may be outspoken about other countries.
I think this analogy missed something.
The reason for being kicked out of said counrty is for protesting specific illegal and inhumane practices of that government.
After having been exiled, the protest continues, but now in an international forum. Support is gathered from others who have been exiled and from those who have fled the country(refugees). Demands are made for the leaders of said government to be tried according to that governments' own laws.
The fact that this country is small and poses little to no threat to any other country has no bearing on the legitimacy or importance of the charges brought against the government. It may make it more difficult to get international attention. International diplomatic and economic pressure against the government become the goal as a means to effect change. And so, a need for publicity.
(This last part reminds me of South Africa.)
Now, I don't know if Bills' letter is pure genius or a counter-productive FUBAR. Time will tell. But he did say:
The letter is not a joke, I do not play games. I have followed theocratic procedure since day one regarding this matter.
This indicates that this letter is part of an overall strategy, not an impetuous diatribe.
The abuse problem is not new. The awareness of the problem amongst the r/f and general public is new. So far, he has done very well for the silent lambs.
queereality
since so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?
Siddhashunyata said
Full disclosure requirementsof :their mehods, techniques and expectations.
Absolutely! All religions should be required to be up-front about what is expected and required to be in good standing. And maybe have a "consumer's review" type of service so that anyone can get an objective opinion/run-down of whatever religion they are interested in.
I would also would LOVE to take away their tax exempt status.
But I would not ban them. I believe freedom of speech, etc. is very important and not to be limited except in extreme circumstances.
I do believe that critical thinking skills should be taught to kids starting at very young age.
queereality
some of you may remember my son's struggle with his beliefs about a year ago.
benjamin was brought up as a jw and was heavily involved, used extensively on the platform as a good jw role model.
however, about a year ago (when he was 13) he started to have doubts and went through a cycle of depression, even contemplating suicide.
I'm not sure that this would work, but perhaps you could take some of the heat off of your wife by making it clear that she was following your instructions that your son is not to be alone with the elders. Maybe you could call them up, all indignant that they are trying to influence your son behind your back and it's a damn good thing that she followed your instructions not to allow any behind-closed-door meetings with him. You could even say that if they try anything like that again you will forbid him to go to any meetings.
queereality
edited for typos
Edited by - queer_reality on 26 September 2002 14:39:31
i'm not sure how to put this news gently to the community here, but regarding my post yesterday regarding chantelle.. thankyou for all of your kind messages and warmth displayed on your parts.. chantelle was only 16 when disfellowshipped.
only 18 years old with her whole life in front of her.
she took her own life this morning at 0400hrs.. i am so sorry not to have been in a better position to get your letters to her in time.. take care all of you & kindest regards.
I am so very sorry.
Years ago I was aquainted with a young woman, Jeneane(sp?) who could not live by her parents rules. So, at 16 years old, she moved out of her folks home in the 'burbs and into the big city, San Francisco. I drove her and her few belongings to a seedy hotel in the Tenderloin district (a slum area w/ hookers and hustlers on the corners, drugs everywhere) where she had decided to stay. I occaionally asked about her. She was managing, barely. When she turned 18, she got a job doing phone sex. The next news I had of her was that she had jumped of the Golden Gate Bridge. When the boat got to her, she was still alive. When they tried to pull her out of the water, she resisted. She later died of exposure.
What was is that pushed so far? She was raised as a Mormon and she was going to be officially kicked out of the church. She could not tolerate the idea of having no contact with her family. So she killed herself. She was the oldest of several children.
Later, I was told that her parents had vowed that they would not be so hard on the rest of their children.
Regarding this... individual who burned Chantelles' baby pictures -- I wish I did believe in Hellfire. I would at least have the satisfaction of knowing where she would be spending her afterlife. And as for the WTBTS, I wish that they could be forced to experience all the agony and despair that they have inflicted upon so many people. Then they can go to hell.
I am drenched in sweat. I'm trying to not shake so that I can type this. I am so angry.
Perhaps a book about people, especially young people, who have been driven to such extremes by these kinds of organizations.
I am becoming to upset.
(((((Adele))))) (((((Celtic)))))
Chantelle, I am weeping for you and so many others.
queerealiy
those of you who have close witness family members -- how hard has it been not to just throw up your hands and just return to the society, just for appearance's sake?
my parents, whom i love very much, are witnesses, and it's very difficult for me to go day to day knowing that i'm completely letting them down.
i no longer believe anything the society says, but oh how tempting it would be to just go back and fake my way through, knowing that i could give my parents peace.
I was raised a dub. Only my sister is still a dub, everyone else in my immediate family has gotten out. Most of my extended my are dubs. I used to be close to some of my cousins, and occasionally I wish I could talk with them. And my sister and I were very close. I haven't seen her even once in the past ten years. I've never met her husband. I miss her terribly. She still talks to the rest of my family--they drifted, I was dfed. I haven't seen my most bestest friend in the whole wide world in about 15 years. I miss her almost as much.
I would not go back into the dubs for anything.
But I have thought about trying to have my babtism declared invalid. I don't know if that is possible, and I doubt that they would be so compassionate, but I have thought about it.
queereality
we've been advised by australia's major network, channel nine, that their investigative programme entitled "silent witnesses" will go to air this sunday, september 22nd.
it'll be on the 'sunday' program much like dateline and panorama and will screen from 9 am to 11 am.the story itself will be around 40 to 45 minutes in length.
depending on the response from this story, they may decide to run the panorama story with a follow up on the aussie story the following weekend.
Becky wrote:Jan, can I go to the bathroom now??
No you may not Sister. No bathroom excursions permitted during discourses no matter how long those discourses may last.
You must learn the fruitage of self control sister ..... if you can't, well that is your problem .... we will just move down a seat
Jan
LMAO
Thanks. I really needed a good laugh.
I sure hope someone gets this program onto the www.
queerealiy
