Glad to e---you rwagnor- glad you joined us- we are a happy family- love is Unconditional-
NOT conditional..... Welcome
I am Grace( better known in the WT as Undeserved Kindness)((((hug)))
former jw..new on the board and glad to see it so active.
the latest round of "new light" in the recent km has reversed the rules and once again my family has been told to shun me.
i da'd in my early 20's after being very active since childhood and have been out of the "borg" now for nearly 18 years.. i look forward to reading and posting as i get more familiar with the names here.. rgw.
Glad to e---you rwagnor- glad you joined us- we are a happy family- love is Unconditional-
NOT conditional..... Welcome
I am Grace( better known in the WT as Undeserved Kindness)((((hug)))
can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?
do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?
do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?
Oh come on stinkypants-I am sorry you took offense- I am sorry if I hurt you- If you knew me- you would know that is why I call myself mouthy- I am apt to put my foot in my mouth-(God isnt finished with me yet) It sounded to me as if you were-had been- or was interested in the JW doctrine.
Yes I would love to disguss with you any topic you lice- Not the occult- I already have a guy pestering me with that- I already told him i am not interested- but he keeps on-
& he wasnt trained by the WTower. Hey do I get forgiven???????( by you anyway-I have already been forgiven by GOD
Johnny cip----Thanks-if you think THATS funny you should see ME!!!!you would ROTFL
can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?
do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?
do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?
Well with all this high IQ-I can understand why God chose the foolish things in the world to put the wise to shame ----Yep I am one of those- foolish----I went to an assembly in Aug- ( for a couple of hours I couldnt stand to hear the bragging) But I have not been to a meeting in about 15 years. Thank God. I know you consider that Jesus is a god- that is why I am asking is there two gods,Gods, in the WT?You see I believe I am made in His image- also I have a body- a soul-& a spirit
Just as God has a Body= Jesus a Soul=Father-& Spirit=Holy Spirit-Which works together to produce harmony- The trouble is mine dont work together. My body lays in bed my spirit say "get up" but my soul says no!
Sorry if you cant understand my explaination- Nobody does.But Hey since I am FREE in CHRIST I can believe what I want-& I do!!!!
Yes I believe Romans 8 :1 "there is no condemnation in Christ" Once your born again your one of HIS kids- When we have kids( first birth) if they screw up I dont kill em off- or abandon them- I still love them .
God is far more loving than me I believe no matter what we do once we are born again- He will
still love us- but if we are obeying "Daddy" as we said we would -when we "opened the door to Him"
Then we wont srew up!!! Yes I know some that say they are born again do screw up- But I believe thats when Jesus said" Get away from me I never knew you"
can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?
do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?
do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?
Stinky pants?You said you regarded Jesus as a god? Excuse me! I thought there was only ONE GOD even in the WT.So who is this Jesus whom you say you regard as god? Is he a true god or a false god.?Please enlighten me-MY reading of scripture says there is only one & since Jesus created ALL -What would you say he is????Please check out the name Jehovah ----but if you do believe HIM- didnt he say listen to his Son- & you dont know the JW teaching Jesus only died for Adam- a man for a man-) he opened the way for us ) according to JWS)So if you go to 5 meetings a week- knock on doors for 10 hours a month( for a publisher) You MAY get your name in the book of life- MAY! MAY But MY reading of scripture says "if you confess with your mouth Jesus is LOrd & believe in your heart God raised him from the dead you WILL,WILL WILL( three for emphsis) get life no may about it. sins & all ... Yes sorry i am Mouthy.
i've been lurking about, checking out some of the evidence against the wtbs.
i am currently inactive but still an approved/baptized member.
i have seen all the 1914/607bce evidence; the blood transfusion quandry evidence; the current child abuse problem evidence and several other things that are damning to the wt doctrines.
Undercover I know just how your feeling. I was over 20 yrs thinking it was the channel to God.
My advice to you is look onhttp:// Quotes.JehovahsWitnesses.com
http://Quotes.jehovahsWitnesses.com -I just wish I had all this help when I was kicked out-Because I dont believe Jesus came in 1914.
As to weather they at the top believe this is Gods channel-I believe they are just as under mindcontrol as we were. Why would anyone spend years doing what they do- There is no money for each personally-I dont think
I may be wrong- But I now believe there is a GOD..But I dont believe in religion- I have a relationship with Jesus after all I learned from scripture that Jehovah( I dont call him that now) said LISTEN TO MY SON -so I pray to Jesus- He is my Lord & Saviour. I still believe what scripture says. He paid it all.Said it is finished Your free to THINK- Yes some on here may be a bit cross at times- but they are hurting to. I have found the WT is a breeding ground for Atheists. But on this board we love UNconditionall. No matter what you believe. Do read Crises of conscience-Stay with prayer ( I am the old lady on board 75 years old. ) Some on here may not call me a lady- but I hope you will Blessings ((((HUG)))
can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?
do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?
do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?
Sorry stinky pantz JWs DONT believe in the biblical hell.I also was one for over 20 years.Dont try to mislead the question. They believe you go to the grave & rot....
You sound like your still undermind control love- I believe Jesus will examine HEARTS - Yes i do believe we must open the door of our heart---To let the Truth,Way life enter- but it aint the Watchtower who calls itself the Truth-You cant have LIFE except you go their WAY! come on admit you were trying to act like we call Jesus the LORD of our lives. We didnt all we did was say in Jesus Name at the end of the prayer.
just released from the canadian press.
hawk.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/020924/6/p5hm.html.
Thanks Hawkaw -I was sitting on tenderhooks waiting to hear from you. John said theire was only two for our side today...I wish I could have been there to give Vickie some support.
Vickie You have been WONDERFUL -I am so proud of the way you conducted your self.
Go home & enjoy the gift you have in your kiddies & wonderful Scott. You have really done what the Watchtower of Jan 15th 1974 ( I copied it from ay Franz book)
"When persons are in great danger from a source they do not suspect or are being mislead by those they consider to be their friends,is it an unkindness to warn them?They may prefer not to believe the warning .They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?"
Think of all the folks in the Court! all the folks that have read the write ups in the papers.
You deserve a medal. God bless you.
it has been brought to my attention that there may be a major scandal working in the billings montana area.
it involves more than ten elders in a motel room at the district convention this summer and 14-16 year old girls.
my information source says there is more to come with possible charges being filed, but key jw's work for social services there and are involved in the investigation.
I personally find this hard to believe. So lets wait & see- No more has been heard about it. Sometimes I think some JWs throw us a bone- & hopes we get caught with it.
I still believe "most" Jws are decent folk..
can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?
do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?
do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?
bigdaddy! Yes they believe Jesus died on a TREE- dont mention the cross-thats a no-no. But he only died for Adam- a man for a man- He opened the door for you to go work for your getting into a Paradise earth- which comes after a thousand years. Of course only Jehovahs Witnesses are going to be left after Armeggedon- They are having to clean up the earth- Then when it is a Paridise earth after a thousand year- Every one who hasnt been Witnessed to will get a resurecction. (Only in truth it is a recreaction) as the body rotted in the grave. Oh no They couldnt go into a church- they would rather go into a den of pit bulls-
awake of 10-8-02 brings out a number of things that good christians would avoid due to god's view of how precious a gift , life is.
here's some of the things on the list....no bullfighting, no running of the bulls,no motorcycle stuntmen, no climbing of skyscrapers without safety equipment, no steep snowboarding,bungee jumping,parachuting from airplanes with another strapped to you, no climbing ice-covered cliffs, no sky surfing,no base jumping, no rock climbing,no car-surfing,no climbing mt.
everest, no thrill-seeking.....any that do such things show contempt for the marvelous gift of life......did i forget anything else??
Francois your funny-Gave me a laugh today Thanks