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  We are forgetting something.

  by MrMoe in

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  those of us who are no longer jw's were jw's at one point in time, correct?.

  we all know for a fact that 95% of jw's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.. please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.

  ) it is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were all like them.

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  I disagree with your assumptions that most JW's lead a double life. Sure, there are some that do - mostly youths - but in the congregation where I grew up and surrounding congregations the vast majority were good people and upstanding citizens of the community.

  To label all JW's as living double lives is just as bad as saying all black people commit crimes, all white people hate blacks and all wife beaters ride Harleys and hang out in bars. Stereo types drive me crazy and stereo typing JW's is no different.

  Most JW's have problems and they are all human. Perhaps you witnessed heavy drinking because this was a product of mind control and a way of rebelling. And 99% of the time a JW living a double life gets caught and corrected.

  I am not defending such as actions, but why is a JW misbehaving any different than your next door neighbor misnaming? None. Unfortunately, JW's have to hide when they are a normal human and see a rated R movie. They are a result of the organization and their actions are not always necessarily fault of their own. The puritan attitude is a learned response to a highly controlled environment. Don't be too harsh, we were all there once.

  Do some JW's drink? Yes - and so do non-JW's. Do most JW's have good respectful manners? Yes - and most non-JW's do not - at least where I was from. Been to your local grocery store lately or drive in heavy traffic lately? I guess not. And those JW's who are rude are usually very inactive and are leading a double life - making them about as much as a non-JW as the next guy. When I think JW - I think of the old faithful -serving spotless years in dedication to their beliefs. I know - I was raised by two of them. To deny JW's are good people is crazy. Look at the way they act, the way their homes look, the way they live their lives? To say all witnesses drink heavy is ridiculous.Just about everybody I work with drinks heavily, and non of THEM are JW's.

  I would say the biggest bone I have to pick with JW's is their judgmental attitudes - which again is a learned response to their controlling environment - something that is pounded in them to be. It is only a select few that break away from this vicious cycle and learn to be forgiving. But the JW belief system is not based upon forgiveness. Look at You Know and Fred (fake JW's as it may be) they are prime examples. Judgmental.

  But - you are what you eat - or so the expression goes.
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  Brain dead JWs

  by Stealth in

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  here is a prefect example of the; dont confuse us with the facts mentality of most jws.. .

  http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum22/html/000263.html.

  sorry folks, the whole board moved over night and it looks like they did'nt bring any of the old posts with them.

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  This link works -

  http://www.greatcrowd.net (note the chessy picture)

  http://www.greatcrowd.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi (this is the discussion board)
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  We are forgetting something.

  by MrMoe in

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  those of us who are no longer jw's were jw's at one point in time, correct?.

  we all know for a fact that 95% of jw's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.. please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.

  ) it is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were all like them.

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  Well said Mega. If we act with what they dub as worldly behavior, we prove them right. It is so important to treat them with respect because we were once just like them. And besides - all good people deserve respect and JW's are generally good people.
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  The Watchtower magazine will cease soon.

  by unbaptized_1 in

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  due to the fact that god almighty jehovah,.

  is displeased over the "divisiveness" of this once very.

  worthy publication,and also that the "oversight" is as.

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  Aww- unbaptised has very good intentions I think. Please don't compare to You Know yet - You know won't admit the FDS is bogus - even though he disagrees with many of their viewpoints and admits they are wrong. Although - I think the WT has always been wrong - and Franz had ugly self empowering toughts in mind - and Russell and Rutherford - well they are another story. Not that I am a judge - but wait a minute - didn't Rutherford call himself a Judge - even though he was NOT a judge?

  Anyhow - be nice to the newbie.
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  We are forgetting something.

  by MrMoe in

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  those of us who are no longer jw's were jw's at one point in time, correct?.

  we all know for a fact that 95% of jw's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.. please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.

  ) it is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were all like them.

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  MrMoe

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  We are forgetting something.

  by MrMoe in

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  those of us who are no longer jw's were jw's at one point in time, correct?.

  we all know for a fact that 95% of jw's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.. please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.

  ) it is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were all like them.

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  Was that a dash of seriousness I saw in your humor?
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  Taking a health break

  by jonjonsimons in

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  i wanted to let you all know that i will be staying away from my computer for some time so i won't be able to join the discussions on this board for a few weeks.

  the chemo is sucking out loud and i need to try and focus myself on healing.

  for those many of you who have emailed and called with your support, you will never know how much you have helped.

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  MrMoe

  We love you honey, Take care of yourself and hurry back. kisses

  Moe
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  We are forgetting something.

  by MrMoe in

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  those of us who are no longer jw's were jw's at one point in time, correct?.

  we all know for a fact that 95% of jw's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.. please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.

  ) it is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were all like them.

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  MrMoe

  Those of us who are no longer JW's were JW's at one point in time, correct?

  We all KNOW for a FACT that 95% of JW's do care - so much - that they endure mosquitoes, heat, cold, fire ants, rabid dogs, loss of personal income, spend their free time dedicated to helping others, and much much more to help assholes who hate them to help save their lives.

  Please - do not carry anger towards these people, because we were once like them (blind.) It is not their fault they are wrong - because at one point in time we were ALL like them. Maybe they just haven’t had the chance to run into the same things we have - or maybe they are very co-dependant - or maybe they are happy and feel they are doing what is right - or maybe it's just not their time yet - or maybe they do know but they are scared.

  I love Jehovah's Witnesses - because if it wasn't for them I wouldn't be who I am today. I know the GB prints a lot of crap - but it is NOT for me to judge. Most JW's are some of the most loving people who truly do care. Those that are angry and rude are simply frustrated with their own lives - because as you can remember - they are in a cult. They are brainwashed. Just like you and I were brainwashed, too.

  We are forgetting something… You can catch more flys with honey…
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  Demonized Wall Paper!

  by D wiltshire in

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  years ago i studied with a couple, that told me of an elder that studied with them years before.. they were having marital discord at the time and this elder was famous for finding demon posessed objects.. so this elder while conducting his study and talking about their marital problems asked them if perhaps they may have inadvertently brought home a demon posessed object, and that this was the cause of their domestic problems.. well they went through their whole apartment with this elder to see if they could find anything, but were unsucessfull.

  finally when in the kitchen the elder said he felt strange and that something in the kitchen must be causing it, they looked and looked but nothing.. but when the elder touched the walls of the kitchen, he felt the presents of something there on the walls that could be the causing of their problems.

  so they dung into the wall of the kitchen and found that it was painted over a couple layers of old wall paper.. guess what was one of the pictures they found on one of the layers of wall paper?.

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  This is a true story, isn't it? What a nut job - I think 'ole Brother Elder needs a nice visit in a straight jacket via a dark unmarked van to the nearest mental institution.
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  Nov. 8 Awake - Wife Beaters-Sick

  by MrMoe in

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  i will let you all hang who ever the heck wrote this crap.

  november 8, 2001 awake page 9: some battered women may need to seek assistance from the authorities.

  at times, a point of crisis-such as intervention of the police-can cause an abusive man to see the seriousness of the action.. page 12: should the battered wife leave her husband?

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  MrMoe

  Most important links:

  http://awake11801.homestead.com/awake7.html - this one is the "risk factors"

  http://awake11801.homestead.com/awake11.html - this one is the example of how the troof changed a couple

  http://awake11801.homestead.com/awake12.html - this one is the one basically reccomending to stick with the marriage unless extreme - to NOT coax a woman to leave this situation and that becoming a JW can change all of this (stating JW's provide a POWERFUL influence to change these sorted ways and gaining knowlege about Jehovah will help change his ways.)

  THANKS AGAIN ESSIE!