Posts by PaintedToeNail

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Can one person make a difference? Need your help please.

by apocalypse in

i am feeling a bit out of sorts & i need to bounce this off the board.. do some of you remember the coming out of the un scandal back when?.

have you seen the letter from the un in c of c?.

i am sitting here with that original letter in my hand.. the day before the date on this letter, i had heard about the watchtower involvement on hourglass2.

PaintedToeNail

apocalypse-yes it does make a difference. I made a huge difference to me. When I was a child, there were letter campaigns to the authorities of Malawi to stop the persecution of the 'brothers' who were being persecuted because of not buying a .25 cent political party card. It was heart-wrenching for a little kid to hear of all the despicable things done to those JWs.

Upon learning within the last 3 years about the WTBTS involvement with the UN, allegedly for library 'priviledges', it sickened me. A Malawi JW couldn't buy a stupid card and remain in good standing, but the Borg could have NGO affiliation with the UN...what hypocrites.

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Public Apology Nathan Natas

by Simon in

i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..

PaintedToeNail

Good to see you back Nathan!

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Study: Belief in an angry God associated with variety of mental illnesses

by sizemik in

hardly surprising to most ... but it's interesting to have a study confirm it.. people who believe in an angry, punishing god are much more likely to suffer from a variety of mental illnesses, a scientific study published in the april edition of journal of religion & health finds.. the study, conducted by marymount manhattan college assistant psychology professor nava silton, used data from the 2010 baylor religion survey of us adults to examine the links between beliefs and anxiety disorders like social dysfunction, paranoia, obsession and compulsion.. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/17/study-belief-in-an-angry-god-associated-with-variety-of-mental-illnesses/.

PaintedToeNail

Interesting article, seems to go hand in hand with the RTS, Religious Traumatic Stress, thread a while back. Isn't it interesting though, how the WTBTS always says something to the effect of "Because God is Love, he will destroy untold billions of people who don't fear and worship according to requirements." or one of my favorite from the old song book "God is Love and therefore bids us persecutions to endure"...that one never made any sense to me!

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Having children is bad

by dissonance_resolved in

jw
friends

went to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.

the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!

it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!

PaintedToeNail

littlerockguy-That talk was just awful! I felt so sorry for all the pregnant sisters in the audience.

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Having children is bad

by dissonance_resolved in

jw
friends

went to the weeknight meeting this week for the first time in a long while.

the study was all about how having children was ill-advised in this time of the end- the comments dwelled on what a burden children are, how you can spend more time in the ministry without children, and look what they did in jerusalem- they cannabilized their own children!

it's going to be so horrible to watch our children suffer during the great tribulation!

PaintedToeNail

dissonance-I remember meeting like that as a child, they scared the crap out of me!

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JW 'Scriptural Divorce' -v- Muslim 'Sharia Divorce'

by Joe Grundy in

i just read this bbc article about sharia divorce in cases of domestic violence:.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22044724.

the issues raised seemed very similar to me to what jws teach about 'scriptural divorce' in these circumstances.. misogynistic (of course), dangerous and despicable..

PaintedToeNail

Pity that the women don't learn martial arts and beat the hell out of these awful men, or do like a group of women in South America did years ago and form a posse that beat up nasty husbands for the women they cheated on or abused. The South American group would satisify some of the muslim requirements for modesty, as the posse members kept themselves hooded and disguised...

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My Story

by braincleaned in

here's where i am coming from.

i have spent over 45 years in religion.

i was deep into it, as a jw.

PaintedToeNail

brain-poignantly written; thank you for sharing your story.

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Is the WTBTS Responsible for What Attendees Do After an Assembly?

by PaintedToeNail in

this is in response to jim tx's comment on another thread.

the wtbts claims that the organizers of events such as a congregation picnic or a party are responsible for what the attendees do after the event has ended.

example: if several people meet and engage in 'fornication' afterwards, the organizer is culpable.

PaintedToeNail

I agree, how is it possible for a host to be responsible for what other do AFTER leaving an event? The exceptions being where alcohol or drugs were partaken in and causing a longer lasting effect on the attendees. It never made sense that WTBTS could have very large gatherings and be absolved of responsibility of the attendees, yet they held other hosts responsible for what happened after their events. Double standard.

Blondie-Thanks for the references!

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Is the WTBTS Responsible for What Attendees Do After an Assembly?

by PaintedToeNail in

this is in response to jim tx's comment on another thread.

the wtbts claims that the organizers of events such as a congregation picnic or a party are responsible for what the attendees do after the event has ended.

example: if several people meet and engage in 'fornication' afterwards, the organizer is culpable.

PaintedToeNail

There was a Watchtower article which talked about large weddings, which wasn't a good thing to do. You were supposed to have a 'wedding director' to make sure that no one over imbibed, that the music wasn't too loud and so forth. There were articles in the 1980's that discussed how JW's shouldn't have costume parties as it encouraged people to behave licensentiously.

As Jim stated, it was often brought out that large gatherings were verbotten, as you couldn't guarantee what people were doing during and after. Look at all the JW illustrations that feature gatherings, only a small few are there, the women dressed in dresses, the guys in dress slacks and someone seems to always be playing a guitar...

Sorry, I just realized that I posted this thread under the wrong topic, sorry!

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Is the WTBTS Responsible for What Attendees Do After an Assembly?

by PaintedToeNail in

this is in response to jim tx's comment on another thread.

the wtbts claims that the organizers of events such as a congregation picnic or a party are responsible for what the attendees do after the event has ended.

example: if several people meet and engage in 'fornication' afterwards, the organizer is culpable.

PaintedToeNail

This is in response to Jim TX's comment on another thread. The WTBTS claims that the organizers of events such as a congregation picnic or a party are responsible for what the attendees do AFTER the event has ended. Example: If several people meet and engage in 'fornication' afterwards, the organizer is culpable. Does the WTBTS hold themselves responsible for what JW's do after a District Convention? I've seen some who party hardy while at the lodgings, getting totally wasted.

Should the WTBTS hold large assemblies? Can they be SURE no one is engaged in heavy petting or fornication after the sessions? Could some come together and imbibe in alcohol or illicit drug use? Are they sure that all attendees are engaged in WHOLESOME activity after the sessions? Should the WTBTS be reproved or disfellowshipped for not obeying themselves?