Posts by PaintedToeNail

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Why elders' wives are such gossipers...

by Calebs Airplane in

i have a theory as to why elders' wives gossip so much.

i believe a big part of it has to do with the conversation running dry (between themselves and their elder husbands) after so many years of marriage.

since they don't get to spend too much "quality time" together (because of the elder husband's hamster wheel schedule), when they do have some intimate time alone, the elder's wives will invaribly attempt to engage their husbands in any kind of interchange.

PaintedToeNail

While I was never an elder's wife and never was in the 'know' about things, it does cause me to wonder: If you weren't supposed to be talking about people and what was going on, just what were you supposed to be talking about? There is only so much you can say about the latest Watchtower. People want to know about other people, it is just natural human interest-look at the TV shows that document crimes, i.e. 48 Hours, Dateline and so on.

We all want to know who the pedophiles are in the cong., you are not going to find that out unless someone tells, I am grateful when I hear that someone told that there is a pedophile in a cong.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-26-2013 WT Study (DWELLING)

by blondie in

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a real dwelling for the faithful.

dwelling for his name people today?

8, 9. in what ways did jehovah prove to be a. real dwelling for jacob, and what can we learn.

PaintedToeNail

Re: paragraph 5, never, ever thought of Abraham's lie as not trusting Jehovah would protect him and keep him safe from harm so he could enjoy his 'promise'. But that really does seem to be the case doesn't it? Great observation blondie!

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Does anybody seriously believe Solomon was "great"

by mP in

so where are his buildings, monuments, in real life ?

why cant archeologists find them ?

where are the tourist attractions ?.

PaintedToeNail

Of Course He Was Great-He had a great appetite for sex, probably the most prolific wife/sex slave (concubines) accumulator in the world. That's pretty great...men in the middle east have been trying to catch-up with his numbers ever since.

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WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TESTING WITH EVIL NAD ALLOWING OTHERS TO DO IT?

by blondie in

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*** w09 4/15 p. 6 par.

16 job held high the name of jehovah ***.

even when crushed by the news of the death of his children, job did not ascribe anything improper to god.

PaintedToeNail

Supposedly, sons weren't supposed to pay for the sins of their fathers (don't remember the scripture location), yet when the father is faithful, his children will be killed to test his faithfulness. So the perfection of the fathers could lead to the death of the children. Poor Job, 'he couldn't win for losing', as my grandma would say.

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USA | California | 10-year-old Jehovah's Witness Girl Shot Dead

by jwleaks in

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slain 10-year-old girl spoke of devoting her life to ending violence hours before she was shot.

by stephen magagninipublished: friday, may.

just hours before she was shot to death, 10-year-old elvira campos said she wanted to devote her life to teaching people the bible "and its promise that one day all the violence would end," said her best friend and teacher, olga cruz.. "that afternoon i picked her up for bible study, and we talked about the future," a tearful cruz recalled thursday afternoon.

PaintedToeNail

Extremely sad. The parents leave Mexico for a better life in 'Sunny California' and then is subjected to this senseless and cruel act of what appears to be racism. My heart breaks for this poor family.

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Drinking at meetings / assemblies / conventions ... who's done it?

by HarryMac in

for me .... 1).

last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).

last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..

PaintedToeNail

I went to a DC in Germany in 1981. Many of the JW's sat in front of the stadium at picnic tables, drinking beer openly. I was in awe and wanted to have one too, but my aunt wouldn't let me. Dang. In 2001, went back to Germany, and the sisters were wearing pants out in service, in the middle of the summer. I was soooo jealous.

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Wallkill is it a Commune?

by PaintedToeNail in

after reading how many people live at the wallkill facility, it made me ask the above question.

after looking up what 'commune' meant in secular sources, it seems that wallkill has all the hallmarks necessary to actually be a commune.

meals complete with assigned seats and required attendance, dress requirements, wake up times, music and tv restrictions, work assignments, heirarchy making all decisions, no money being earned by the workers, the vow of poverty.....

PaintedToeNail

Band-From what I've been reading, communes of the 1960' & 70's weren't true to type, with free love and drugs. It seems like communes really got going in the 19th century as religious groups started places like the Amana Colonies in Iowa, Harmony Society in Pennsylvania, Oneida Community in New York and the Shakers. All having major religious influence and say over peoples lives. Many have died out. There are a few communes on going today that seem to be more of back-to-earth movement thing associated with the 1960's, than with religion.

It would be awful to have to get up early in the morning, get dressed up and be nice to people before having morning coffee, I don't know how the Bethel people do it.

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Wallkill is it a Commune?

by PaintedToeNail in

after reading how many people live at the wallkill facility, it made me ask the above question.

after looking up what 'commune' meant in secular sources, it seems that wallkill has all the hallmarks necessary to actually be a commune.

meals complete with assigned seats and required attendance, dress requirements, wake up times, music and tv restrictions, work assignments, heirarchy making all decisions, no money being earned by the workers, the vow of poverty.....

PaintedToeNail

After reading how many people live at the Wallkill facility, it made me ask the above question. After looking up what 'commune' meant in secular sources, it seems that Wallkill has all the hallmarks necessary to actually be a commune. Meals complete with assigned seats and required attendance, dress requirements, wake up times, music and tv restrictions, work assignments, heirarchy making all decisions, no money being earned by the workers, the vow of poverty....

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I kind of envy Christians

by stillin in

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"faith is not a possession of all people.

" that's what the scripture says.

i guess i'm one of those people.

PaintedToeNail

stillin-I don't have any faith either, and never believed in a kind, loving God. As a child, my parents made us do a family bible reading weekly. I would always be outraged that God had killed all the first born babies in Egypt and all the horses were drowned when the red sea closed over the top of them. It was baffling why a woman would be considered 'unclean' when she got her period, which was forced upon her by God in the first place. If she had a baby, she was 'unclean' longer if she had a girl, this didn't seem right either, if it weren't for girls, there would be no boys. It was disturbing that an animal had to be killed to buy back a first born boy or whenever any kind of uncleanness was atoned for or for sins.

Where did all that nasty, stinky blood get pour out to when all those animals were killed? The area around the temple must have stunk to high heaven and the flies would have been awful.

It always disturbed me that King David had been considered so wonderful, yet he was an adulterating murderer. Why did High Priest Aaron get a pass after making a golden calf, when the guy picking up wood on the Sabbath get the death penalty. Why did so many Israelites get killed because some guy hid gold and a garment or two under his tent. Items he wasn't supposed to have. Why did Jehovah tell Moses 'Hey, someone stole some gold and hid it, go find the perpetrator... instead of letting so many get killed first?

Faith always seemed so elusive and made no sense. How can I have faith in any kind of forgiveness if one guy gets killed over wood and the chief religious leader gets away with making a new god for the people, when he should've been killed? It always felt like there were no clear boundaries defined, which made it difficult to believe in a loving God.

I am more at peace now, than I was when being an active JW.

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My Family's Bible Student History

by designs in

recently my cousin on my mother's mcconnell side of the family stopped by for a visit and brought several boxs of photos and memorabilia and family bibles.

two of the bibles are very worn and contain many hand written notes from my grandfather, grandmother and uncle who were bible students and then jws.. leafing through the pages of one bible this morning i came across something i had never seen- a jw calling card, a business card size.

it says 'one of jehovah"s witnesses' second line 'preaching the kingdom of jehovah our god' the capitals and lower case words were interesting in how they saw things after 1931.. there are photos of russell, knorr with van amberg (who stayed with my grandparents on visits to california), knorr with a fellow taller than knorr who looks like chairman mao (anyone have a guess who that might be).

PaintedToeNail

What wonderful reminences. I wish I could and listen to you tell these stories!