i thought i would tell everyone that i will be tied up for the next few days with my youngest son's wedding.
he is getting married on saturday, july 21, in a church!!
i can handle it though.. anyway, i will not be around her for a couple of days at least.
Did I tell you I finally found a dress? Man, it was a big search too.
Princess is a bridesmaid, and "little princess" is the flower girl. But, she thinks it's her wedding. She asked who she is marrying, yesterday. All my sons are in it too, so there should be some good photos to share next week. Lots of apostates too. Of course, my Mom isn't coming. Oh well. Didn't really expect her to be there anyway.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
i thought i would tell everyone that i will be tied up for the next few days with my youngest son's wedding.
he is getting married on saturday, july 21, in a church!!
i can handle it though.. anyway, i will not be around her for a couple of days at least.
Hi kitty kat.............Actually things are really, really good. I have been working on affirming her comments, and it works. She is tolerable that way. Everyone who wrote gave me such good advice. I loved it!! Experience is the best teacher, and everyone who had had an experience with people like her, really taught me a lot.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
i thought i would tell everyone that i will be tied up for the next few days with my youngest son's wedding.
he is getting married on saturday, july 21, in a church!!
i can handle it though.. anyway, i will not be around her for a couple of days at least.
I thought I would tell everyone that I will be tied up for the next few days with my youngest son's wedding. He is getting married on Saturday, July 21, in a church!! I can handle it though.
Anyway, I will not be around her for a couple of days at least. So busy!!!
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
did jesus get circumcised or not?
quote from mark(thats me) "i believe woman was the .
last and greatest creation" of course i have my own.
Okay, one more comment. I am a doctor's daughter and my family is more open about this stuff than others might be. Also, as I said before, I am close to my daughters in law, and they tell me more than I need to know, but they still tell me. I concede that if a man is circumcised he doesn't know the difference. I CAN tell you that my father was circumcised while he was in the Navy, after he was married. He said there was no difference. I asked. He is still alive, and lives with us.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
did jesus get circumcised or not?
quote from mark(thats me) "i believe woman was the .
last and greatest creation" of course i have my own.
I told you I would get statistics with the other viewpoint.
When I said it doesn't affect sexual stuff, I meant that it doesn't do what female circumcision does. That eliminates it for a woman, forever. Okay?
You asked if I had ever had an erection? Dumb question!!! I told you I have sons, and grandsons. My husband is circumcised. Believe me there is no problem there. I am very close to my daughters in law. My sons have NO problems. Quite the opposite.
I realize this is an emotional subject, and I let people have their views, and I have mine. I simply stated mine. I am done on this subject.
did jesus get circumcised or not?
quote from mark(thats me) "i believe woman was the .
last and greatest creation" of course i have my own.
This is just a dumb thread. For any of you to compare female genital mutilation with the circumcision of a boy is just ridiculous, and ignorant.
It's a cleanliness issue. There are lots of statistics out there, but one I can tell you is that women whose partners are uncircumcised have a higher incidence of cervical cancer. Gee. I wonder why??
Now everyone will jump on me with their own statistics, I am sure.
I have three sons, and several grandsons. No one is complaining about being circumcised. I watched my eldest boy being circumcised and he didn't even cry, and bled very little. The doctor said it's like cutting off a fingernail, and if you cut in the right place, there is no feeling. But, if you cut too far back, they will have pain, like when you tear a fingernail into the quick. He proved that when he did the procedure. I just fail to see what the big deal is.
Circumcision doesn't limit sexual feeling, so again, I have to say the comparison to what is done to some women does not apply.
Why do women put holes in their ears, and their navels, and their eyebrows? That's painful, when it's done. I know that isn't even close to the same thing. That's my point!!!
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
a question that comes up a lot on the exmormon bb is: "what movie reminds you the most about the church?
" i would put that question here, what movies remind you the most of the watchtower society?
i think i know most of the answer, just interested.. dana.
I think I was really tired when we saw the Matrix. I kept falling asleep. Maybe that's the connection. It will bore you to death, just like the meetings.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
i had a follow up phone call from the mormons today wanting to arrange for house visit no.
2. the first visit had been a game where i asked questions and they wriggled about a bit so as not to address them -- it brought back dub memories, i'm telling you.. it went like this.... who will survive the world's judgement day?
only mormons and exceptional individuals.. how about me?
Hi Susan. Thanks for all the info. I sure didn't mean to come off as being harsh about it all. I am just really burned on religion, and see many similarities with Mormons and JW's.
I would likely have acted the same if I owned a business and staffed it mainly with JW's, while I was one. The non dub would have been suspected everytime there was a problem, and I understand that. But, I got sick of it, because I knew I was innocent, and shouldn't be judged that way.
The young men I mentioned are really nice. I believe I said that. My cousin has cancer, and they know it, and offer assistance from time to time. I had been told that they can't use cars at all. I was told this by the people I worked with. One of the women taught 'seminary', so I assumed she knew what she was telling me. And the fellows live in an area that is very easily accessible by bus, and sidewalks all over the place. Also my area is literally covered in apartment buildings, so I would be naive to think they couldn't find one nearer their territory. I tend to think they have a car because it rains so much here. They would be pretty much left inside on some of those days if they didn't have a car.
Anyway, I don't mean to defend or attack, or offend, so if I did, I apologize.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
i'm thinking that the mind-control games are very very very very much the same between mormonism and jwism.
i've lurked here for a while and thought i'd introduce myself.
my name is alex and i'm an unbelieving mormon who lives in utah.
(some of this is also posted on philo's thread)
Welcome, Alex.
The Borg: I always thought we said that because the dubs are so much like the Borg, on Star Trek the next generation. You know, a continuem, of mindless robots, going through the motions of life. But, I see the connection with what Gopher said too. "Brooklyn Org."
About a year after I left the JW's, I went to work at a scrapbook store, owned and run by a Mormon family. Most of the employees were also Mormons, and about 8 months into my job, I quit, realizing I would never really be accepted there, and anything that went wrong had to be MY fault because it couldn't be one of their own. I just got sick of being blamed for things I hadn't done, and "kissing the owner's butt" everytime she walked into the store.
Anyway, shortly after I started there, they found out I was an ex JW, and were all very interested in what had happened. They were licking their chops, I'm sure, thinking I would now join them. I assured them I was NOT looking for another place to go, but they kept at me. I would stress things that I knew they believed too, as being reasons for my leaving, like "they are the only true religion" and other things.
I learned during that time, that they do drink caffeinated beverages, like Coke, and Mr. Pibb, and that coffee, the EVIL drink, has "many other bad things in it than just caffeine." I had to stifle a laugh. I asked about missionaries and why those 19 year old guys are called Elders. Not a satisfactory answer.
At this time, there are two Mormon missionaries living next door to my cousin, in an nice apartment building. I see them arriving home quite often, and they are really nice young boys. They drive a very nice car, with bicycles on the back. I about died laughing the first time I saw that. They are obviously fellows with rich family, but still have to give the impression of being poor, by using the bikes.
It's all nonsense. All religions are the same, with different weirdness in each. But all ultimately have the same ends, I think. The people can be good, and they can be crummy. It's the hearts that matter.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
i had a follow up phone call from the mormons today wanting to arrange for house visit no.
2. the first visit had been a game where i asked questions and they wriggled about a bit so as not to address them -- it brought back dub memories, i'm telling you.. it went like this.... who will survive the world's judgement day?
only mormons and exceptional individuals.. how about me?
Welcome, Alex. About a year after I left the JW's, I went to work at a scrapbook store, owned and run by a Mormon family. Most of the employees were also Mormons, and about 8 months into my job, I quit, realizing I would never really be accepted there, and anything that went wrong had to be MY fault because it couldn't be one of their own. I just got sick of being blamed for things I hadn't done, and "kissing the owner's butt" everytime she walked into the store.
Anyway, shortly after I started there, they found out I was an ex JW, and were all very interested in what had happened. They were licking their chops, I'm sure, thinking I would now join them. I assured them I was NOT looking for another place to go, but they kept at me. I would stress things that I knew they believed too, as being reasons for my leaving, like "they are the only true religion" and other things.
I learned during that time, that they do drink caffeinated beverages, like Coke, and Mr. Pibb, and that coffee, the EVIL drink, has "many other bad things in it than just caffeine." I had to stifle a laugh. I asked about missionaries and why those 19 year old guys are called Elders. Not a satisfactory answer.
At this time, there are two Mormon missionarie living next door to my cousin, in an nice apartment building. I see them arriving home quite often, and they are really nice young boys. They drive a very nice car, with bicycles on the back. I about died laughing the first time I saw that. They are obviously fellows with rich family, but still have to give the impression of being poor, by using the bikes.
It's all nonsense. All religions are the same, with different weirdness in each. But all ultimately have the same ends, I think. The people can be good, and they can be crummy. It's the hearts that matter.
Marilyn (a.k.a. Mulan)
