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  Are born-ins or are converts most likely to leave?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  maybe born-ins are, because we converts made the choice whereas the born-ins did not.

  or are the converts more likely to because of thought patterns developed outside the cult?

  i'd like to know what you think..

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  Mum

  As a convert from a non-JW family, I know it was easier for me than for many born-ins whose whole family are JW's.

  At about the age of 27, I realized I was very unhappy. I started going back in time to figure out what had led me to the situation I had gotten myself into. It went back to my trying always to escape my family. Being away from my family was one of the rewards of becoming a JW when I was 15. At the beginning, being a JW actually opened my world and gave me broader experience, but, as time went on, I realized it was holding me back.

  I don't know if one group (born-ins vs. converts is more likely to get out, but I am certain that it's easier for converts.
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  Reflecting on my JW life

  by Gojira_101 in

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  sorry i have been m.i.a lately...life got very busy for me.. this morning i woke up at 5:30 and couldn't get back to sleep because i was having many thoughts running through my head.

  my grandma shunning me, what it was like for me as a jw and i remembered something that i thought i would share.

  guess i'm needing some group therapy today :).

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  Mum

  You're probably not the only one to have experienced this kind of emotional confusion. It is normal to feel that way, I am sure, when you are brainwashed but your authentic, real self knows better. In the Russian novel A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, Ivan at one point starts to question whether his whole life has been a lie. Lucky for you, you were like Ivan.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses in Southern Russia Face New Charges

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130408/180515407.htm.

  rostov-on-don, april 8 (ria novosti) prosecutors in the southern russian city of taganrog have charged 16 jehovah's witnesses with taking part in the activities of an extremist organization after they allegedly resurrected the banned local branch of the international religious organization.. according to investigators, the religious groups followers continued to hold regular meetings after their local branch was banned in the city in 2009. at the meetings, they allegedly incited hatred against other religions, circulated extremist literature and called for military draft dodging.. the suspects also attempted to involve children in their activities and collected money for the organization, the prosecutors said in a statement.. the case materials will be sent to the taganrog city court after the suspects are informed of the charges, the statement said.. the jehovah's witnesses organization, which has more than seven million followers worldwide, including over 130,000 in russia, has been banned in a number of russian regions and in some former soviet republics over its religious beliefs.. the jehovah's witnesses branch in the russian capital was dissolved by a district court ruling in 2004, but the european court of human rights declared the decision illegal in 2010.. .

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  Mum

  Sadly, the reasons/allegations given for banning the JW's are all true. But, according to human rights advocates, the JW's have a "right" to their religious form of oppression and falsehood.
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  Any ex elder/bethelite willing to talk/email with awakening JW?

  by SeekingTheRealTruth in

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  i am mostly a lurker here..i check this website everyday.

  my husband and i left the religion 3 years ago.

  all my family were active jws when we left, but that is all changing now.

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  Mum

  Congratulations! It is wonderful to have your family with you as you exit. Best wishes to all of you in your new life of freedom.
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  Flash Backs

  by hopelesslystained in

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  how do you deal with them?

  from experiencing falsely based family accusations.

  commitee meetings (old term).

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  Mum

  Once I told a co-worker that every time I go back home to visit, I have nightmares about my sperm donor. He was brutal.

  She offered a wonderful and funny suggestion. She told me that when he appears in my dreams, dress him in a little pink tutu, pink ballet slippers, and have him dance around holding a little ruffled umbrella.

  I haven't, for some reason, quite got to the point of placing him in that ridiculous costume, but the last couple of times I have dreamed about him, I have taken charge. In one dream, I got out my cell 'phone and called 911. In another, I found the car keys and got my daughter and granddaughter out of the house.

  There is a tribe somewhere (Phillippines?) we learned about in Psychology class that makes an effort to bring back the bad things in their dreams and overcome them. I think it's a great idea!

  I have had dreams that I was back with my JW ex as well, probably out of pity. But I haven't dreamed of him for a very, very long time.

  Hang in there!
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  Being honest & fair, can you think of anything that the Watchtower does that's beneficial to the public?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  i'm curious, as where i reside there's about to be a major brouhaha over the tax exempt status of a major player in this area.

  reading and hearing the arguments from both sides conjured thoughts about the tax exempt status of religions and the arguments associated with that issue.

  a significant portion of the arguments related to that issue center around how a tax exempt organization benefits it's community.

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  Mum

  I think some suicides have been prevented by the Watchtower.

  Many suicides have been caused by the WT society's policies and cruel representatives.
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  so now what?

  by Kaltas1 in

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  i don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.

  but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.

  after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.

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  Mum

  I'm sending you a PM.
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  so now what?

  by Kaltas1 in

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  i don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.

  but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.

  after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.

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  Mum

  You sound like you're being a bit impatient with yourself. It takes time to overcome the effects of being in a high control group.

  Your research is impressive. Do you read and understand Greek?

  Welcome to the forum.

  Regards,

  SandraC
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  "Apostasy took root and flourished" (WT, July 15, 2013, page 18)

  by Doug Mason in

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  Mum

  So, there was a great "apostasy" in the first century? This assertion reminds me of a passage in 1984 where Winston (or his tormentors) make the observation that those who control the present control the past. I have not heard of this "apostasy" from any other source.

  IMHO, they are drawing a parallel between the first century and the present to get the publishers to believe there has always been "apostasy" and they'll ride it out.

  Who knows?
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  breaking up is hard to do

  by fresh prince of ohio in

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  background: i joined the jws when i was 21, left about 11 years ago.. up until recently, i had never been in a relationship that went longer than a few months.

  and that was just one.. i've been with my current for the past 3.5 years.

  she's, just, okay.. i've never felt like, oh, i love her so much.

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  Mum

  You will only create more misery for both of you if you continue this relationship. Work on finding someone who is right for you.

  Is she a JW? Are you?

  Find a reason that she will accept to end it, as soon as possible.

  Talk to a mental health professional to get some tips on how to do what you must do.