Having been out since 1979, it is heartwarming to see so many waking up. There are some great thinkers and very kind hearts here who keep me in line. I try to contribute what insight I am able to the ones leaving. It's great knowing I'm no the only one whose life was almost wrecked by falling for a bunch of hoo hoo.
Posts by Mum
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14Has your contributions on JWN given you something meaningful to do?
by His Excellency indo you think that jwn is giviing some kind of meaning to your life on a daily basisthrough your various contributions?.
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What do you think a witness would say when shown this quote?
by BU2B inwhat do you think a witness would say when shown this quote, then the proof of the 1914, 1925 predictions?.
"true, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.
yet nothing happened.
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Mum
What is really hilarious, BU2B, is that the quotation you cite is from a 1968 publication, right after the 1975 expectation (or whatever it was) was presented. The first time 1975 was mentioned, to the best of my memory, knowledge, information and belief, was in 1967 in the book entitled something like Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God. In 1968, we were very excited about 1975.
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Only “Apostates” Can Warn You!
by Marvin Shilmer inonly apostates can warn you!
today i added a new article to my blog disclosing watchtowers new doctrinal position that puts apostates in a unique position to warn jehovahs witnesses of watchtowers 8-member governing body.
i doubt watchtower realized the can of worms it was opening with its new slave teaching, and how it elevates apostates from debasement to unique protectors of the victimized.
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Mum
Yet another reason I love being an "apostate!"
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Do you go to Kroger/Publix/Wal Mart?
by Iamallcool ini usually shop for most things at wal mart but i have learned some things at publix and kroger are cheaper than wal mart.
if you are conscious shopper, tell me what things do you buy at each store to save some money!
i am thinking about being a member of bj, if you know of any good deals at bj, let me know too.
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Mum
Smith's is the name of the Kroger franchise here in Nevada. It is the nearest grocery store to home, so I do a lot of shopping there. I loathe Wal-Mart and refuse to shop there, although I understand that in some places there is little or no other choice.
To me, it is more important to find things on sale than to choose a retailer. I buy lots of clothing at thrift stores - designer clothing and handbags for a song! I also like to buy children't clothes at thrift stores.
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Are you a dabbler in Witchcraft?
by StopTheTears inafter leaving christianity it's common especially among the young to experiment with witchcraft.
some get drawn into it by getting involved with earth movements and back to nature groups.. .
witchcraft is an evil thing.
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Mum
I dabble in whatever presents itself. I have friends from many different belief traditions, and they dabble, too. I am a sort of dilettante, and enjoy knowing something about as many concepts, ideas, philosophies, phenomena, etc. that I can. The only thing I judge is behavior. If people want to dance naked in the moonlight with menstrual blood on their faces, where's the harm? If people beat small children with sticks, belts, shoes, or other objects, that does harm.
Don't worry about what anyone else believes unless they try to force it on others or do harm with it, although the belief doesn't do the harm; the practice / behavior does.
It is not sound to choose beliefs and practices based on what someone thinks of it. It is sound to consider whether it does harm or not.
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Michael Jackson's kids decide no more going door-to-door
by Gopher inthis article made my day.
it looks like paris jackson and her brother prince michael have told katherine they simply aren't interested in peddling jw stuff from door-to-door any more.
i'm glad they are becoming their own people and emerging from their grandmother's control.. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/paris-jackson-prince-michael-jackson-jehovas-witness/.
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Mum
If you had zillions of dollars to donate to the Watchtower in lieu of going out in service, wouldn't you do it? I always believed the stuff celebrity JW's could do that the rest of us couldn't had to be because of what they had to offer in cash and free publicity for the WT. However, I never heard of anyone being converted to JW because of any of those celebs. Who knows?
Good for Paris and Prince. It's a little scary, though, to think of people their age having so much power. At that age, kids usually need to be reined in a lot.
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Share the Craziest far out ideas/arguments you have heard about life in the "NEW SYSTEM"
by BU2B inreally the whole thing is ludicrious but it is hilarious and sad at the same time to see grown people arguing about weather there will be cars, planes, eat meat, what about fish, etc in a place as imaginary as oz, yet to them it is reality.. the teaching of a paradise earth was so illogical it really was the first thing that started me on the path to waking up.
just the thought that someone could greet their beloved spouse who had died only to come to the realization that they could never be together again struck me as so cruel, i didnt want to live there even if it was all true.. i have heard jws say they think we might be able to fly, read minds since we will be able to use 100% and some seem to think life would be an endless vacation, with modern conveniences with no thought to all the processes and work that goes into something simple like a pencil.
i love the article jwfacts has on the flaws of any theory or teaching of paradise earth.. what are some things you have heard discussed/argued in car groups, gatherings etc when you were in?.
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Mum
I remember a discussion about whether there would be money in the "new order." One person argued that Adam and Eve didn't have money, while the other argued that there would have to be a medium of exchange. Also related to children was speculation as to whether babies and children who had died would be resurrected as babies and children or as adults.
Another wacky one was that, eventually, there would be no more children. At some point, the earth would be "full" and no more children would be born. I never heard the one about populating other planets; I thought that one was exclusive to Mormons.
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Creepy, too true to jw life game intro.
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6guw7vxnhtu .
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Mum
Great video, stuck. "Perfection" is not what it's cracked up to be.
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Pay Day - oh no payment....again.
by LouBelle inthis has developed into a regular habit now.
i work for this company i don't partucularly want to work for, but in order to get a salary i do.
(trust me i'm looking for better options) every single month, bar one, they have have paid me late.
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Mum
Yes, you should be looking for another job. The important issue for you, though, is your credit history and having to make payments late.
I don't know about South Africa, but here in the States, most creditors will work with you if you call them, or notify them in writing, as to why your payments are late. Request that they waive late fees and not put it on your credit report because it is not your fault. It is your employer, not you, who is a bad credit risk.
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This thread is for people that do not really understand the control mechanisms of the Watchtower Society
by Iamallcool inplease feel free to explain the control mechanisms of the watchtower society.
thank you!.
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Mum
Read 1984 by George Orwell, and there it is. Big Brother is watching you at all times, and everyone else works for him as a spy.
You do not have the basic human rights to:
- Choose your own friends
- Wear fashionable clothes or anything that may draw attention to yourself
- Disagree with males, regardless of how ignorant or uninformed or downright stupid they may be
- Express your own thoughts or opinions
- Have your own thoughts and opinions
- etc.