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  What flexibility exists when an JW sister marries an Unbeleaver?

  by Quarterback in

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  how does this work out?

  does the christian wife now go along to show respect to her husband, in celebrating holidays, voting, where does she draw the line?.

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  Mum

  In the '70's, I was part of a congregation that had some sisters married to unbelieving mates.

  One of the husbands was a sociopath, and he and his JW wife had been divorced and remarried about 5-6 times (no lie!). The kids were rebellious and behaved badly. I don't know if they're still dubs or not.

  Another husband was a sweetheart who gave his family a good life. Eventually, he became a publisher. Not long after that, the whole family left the borg. The mom got a secretarial job at the university. The daughter became a French teacher. The son became a reporter, and has won a lot of awards. The daughter told me that she got to go to cousins' birthday parties as a child. The exposure to the freedom of being "worldly" was very beneficial in this case.
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  If Jesus was a live today would he have a morning TV show?

  by jam in

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  start your day off with jesus.

  paul would probably have a. a morning show, "why women should stay in the kitchen".. i love to see, " start your day with the 144000".

  explain our unique belief, no phone calls please.. i,m sure the program would receive high rating.

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  Mum

  Maybe it would be an analysis of the Sermon on the Mount, parables, and admonition to avoid JW's and others who would mislead.
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  Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!

  by sosoconfused in

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  http://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.

  of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.

  253 acres???

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  Mum

  My money's on what "lost" said.
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  Confused

  by molybdenum in

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  i read the words of robert king.

  he really made me think.

  his words were like a water spring.

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  Mum

  Being a JW works for some people. You may be one of them, but I don't know you. You need to do some research, read Steven Hassan's books and other books about cults, then make a list of pros and cons about staying in and getting out.

  Do you have family who are JW's? Do you want to pursue higher education? If you're in a serious accident, do you want freedom to choose the medical treatment you may need to save your life? If you have children, do you want them to have a negative view of all who are not JW's? Do you want to shun people who were seen smoking a cigarette or having lunch with someone the JW's disapprove of?

  It is best not to make an emotional decision. Think it through. Decide what your priorities are.

  I hope you make the decision that is right for you and the people important to you.
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  What you THINK ... v What you KNOW ....

  by *lost* in

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  what you think you would do hypothetically.. what you know you would do in reality.. this is the 'hypothetical' story.

  young man finishes his days work, he works in construction, he is wearing his 'kit' tool belt, boots, he's on foot.. one day, he's walking down the street.. he see's an elderly lady, and a group of 3 people, 2 male, 1 female, who have a dog.

  (large mongrel).

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  I am an old lady, so I would lurk into the shadows and dial 911.
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  Slowly Awakening at the DC 2013

  by breakfast of champions in

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  so after the district convention was over, i asked my wife what her overall impression was.

  she said, "maybe something has changed, or maybe it's your influence that i see things differently now, but a lot of those talks sounded more threatening than anything.

  not loving, not really hopeful, just threatening.

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  Mum

  Good progress! The last convention I remember attending was about fear. They were talking about how "safe" everyone was inside Jehovah's organization and how dangerous it would be in the world. I had already left by then, so I was not starry-eyed about it in the first place.
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  Pets are false gods

  by Rattigan350 in

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  2. beliefs

  i"m listening to the 2013 dc green bay saturday talk on false gods.. the speaker says no one would knowingly worship false deities.

  but could we inadvertantly give jehovah less than exclusive devotion he deserves.. he said:you have not allowed this deception power of sin to sensual desires, material comforts, pets, technology, entertainment or food to become objects of devotion to you.. anything that interferes with our spiriutal routine has the power of eroding or weaking our relationship with jehovah.. .

  my dogs can erode my relationship with jehovah.

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  Your animals love you more than the Watchtower does. Choose wisely.
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  Crisis of Conscience and the preaching work with WT literature

  by losingit in

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  2. beliefs

  "it is interesting to contrast the deliberate elimination of prayers andsongs at witness meetings in mexico with the action of the watchtower society in the united states, where they were willing to fightcase after case all the way up to the supreme court of the countryrather than give up certain practices, such as offering literature fromdoor to door without a license and without having to register withthe police, the right to use sound cars, distribute literature on streetcorners, and many other such practices which are covered byconstitutional rights.

  the organization did not want to relinquish anyof these things.

  it fought to hold on to them, even though theseparticular practices are certainly not things that were done by earlychristians in the first century and hence cannot be counted as amongprimary christian practices.".

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  Those nice JW's who don't offer literature might make more converts than those who do! Do they make return visits?
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  Are there people who have returned

  by His Excellency in

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  considering all the consequences of leaving the organization (especially the loss of family), some who have already known ttat have decided to return and continue with the flow just to keep their families and friend.. my question is if anyone here had tried it and how they have been managing living a lie constantly day-after-day?, as i am seriously considering returnning back to the full routine..

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  Mum

  I feel for you. Do you have minor children at home? If you become a dub again, be sure to provide them with some activity that is not depressing or hopeless, and help them to understand that "worldly" people are good people, but with different beliefs.

  Letting go was one of the hardest thing I ever did. I resisted, but after about 2 years, everything came together, and I was mentally free as well as free in any other way.

  Make a list of pros and cons. Talk with a psychologist, especially on what to teach your children if there are any.

  If you do go back, try to move to another town where the JW's don't know you. Miss as many meetings as you can. Find excuses to get away and be with other people. Find the meetup group in your town and keep in touch with ex-JW's for support.

  Remember that even if you do go back, you can still change your mind. Learn ways to cope with depression and despondency.

  Best wishes with your decision.
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  Compilation of Candice Conti brief quotes.

  by zound in

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  2. child-abuse

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  Mum

  I say turn Kendrick and his ilk over to Lorena Bobbitt.