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  Women elders, what difference would they make?

  by Freedom77 in

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  okay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.

  they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.

  stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.

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  Thanks, Birdie!
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  Coloring book activity for kids: Lot's wife dying

  by rebel8 in

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  omg.

  would you have your kids do this activity?

  so messed up.. .

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  Darth the Sequel: Only 2 or 7 of each animal was taken aboard the ark, so 99.9999999-infinity percent of animals died, too. Animals are not inclined to "worship" anything, so maybe that's why. I think Billy the Ex-Behelite made an even stronger point about the animals aboard the ark. That is, how did kangaroos, koalas, platypuses and other marsupials get across the oceans and continents to be placed into that ark?
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  Women elders, what difference would they make?

  by Freedom77 in

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  okay, let's do a big what-if: suppose the gb for its own unfathomable reasons suddenly got new light (tm) and decided to start appointing women elders and ministerial servants.

  they would, of course, refer to the examples of junia (apostle), and priscilla and phoebe (deaconesses in wordlyspeak) in the greek scriptures; never mind what mental somersaults it would take to get them there.

  stranger things have happened in wt history.. that being the case, would having women in positions of real authority make any significant difference in the congos or in the borg as a whole, and why or why not?.

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  I am a woman and have been a JW and an elder's wife, and have seen behind the curtain of the facade of "love" among the "brothers." Women have a different perspective on things, especially as it concerns children. On the one hand, I think child molestors might not get off so easily. I think DF'ing a teenager who was baptized long before he/she understood what he/she was getting into might be frowned upon a lot more, and the child might receive more "counseling" before being thrown to the wolves.

  On the other hand, I think women would resist such appointments, as their ego is not so tied up with position and power. Women have a greater need, IMHO, to feel "qualified" for a position. My grandmother believed that Walter Mondale lost the presidential election because of "that woman," his female running mate. Women see themselves as inferior because we've internalized what society has told us about ourselves. A few women are breaking out of that mentality, particularly women of Generation Y. My granddaughter clearly does not see herself as inferior or subject to anyone's innate "superiority." (You go, girl!)

  I used to be a doormat. As a result, I could no longer tolerate my life and had to start anew for the sake of my mental health. My elder ex-husband told me I "had a problem with subjection," meaning I had my own wishes and desires outside of being his personal slave.

  It is not just JW's who have kept women "in their place." Almost all religions do to some degree. It would be very modern of them to buck tradition and have more equality among people. I agree that it could happen, but all hell might break loose if it did. Even "worldly" men hate it when a woman is the boss, or even given opportunities traditionally closed to women.
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  The Deepak Chopra Random Quote Generator

  by cofty in

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  this computer program generates random quotes that sound just like actual chopra woo woo.... what gem do you get to guide you through life today?.

  i got .... "death fascinates the progressive expansion of excellence"something to think about!.

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  "Your heart transcends formless knowledge."

  "Freedom is an ingredient of intrinsic sensations."
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  Snare & Racket's Graduation Picture

  by cofty in

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  after years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.

  he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .

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  Inspiring!
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  Need a Game Plan

  by bafh in

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  i'm not sure what is going on at the convention, but i just got a desperate call from a friend wanting me to attend sunday's morning session.

  last weekend, my mom invited me too.instead of saying something like, "i'm sorry, but i have no intention of going back," and having them completely freak out - i agreed to go to the sunday morning session.

  any recommendations?

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  Mum

  Will you be sitting with your friend (I assume you will). You can take your cell phone and ask people to call you at certain times so you will have an excuse to go somewhere to take the "private" phone call. If you don't want to stay, make up some "crisis" that is "forcing" you to leave. Be polite and kind (which I'm sure you would anyway) so your friend won't have any reason to believe you're "demonized" or unduly "under the influence of 'Satan.'" I understand your feeling that you "must" go, and that's okay. Judt don't take anything seriously. AND don't let your friends sense of panic draw you in.

  If you're having trouble making friends, take a class or join a club (Toastmasters would be great!) so you meet new people. Look in the newspaper or online for events in your town you might like to attend. There are many ways to meet people besides going back to the Kingdom Hall. There are some great people out there you'll relate to. Have you ever attended an Apostafest?

  Best wishes!
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  GB guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. How can JW's believe this stuff?

  by integ in

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  the gb is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes.

  blasphemy against god by claiming they "speak for jehovah".

  they said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of jehovah and we should listen to those words.

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  GB speak with forked tongue. But the money keeps rolling in anyway. Why mess with success?
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  Fading Or Disassociating Keeping Family By Playing A Game

  by WinAgainstThem in

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  i have a cousin who claims to have disassociated from the faith over 10 years ago.

  recently he told me that our family has never learned about this.

  honestly i dont see how he has continued to keep this up.

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  Mum

  A very long time ago, there was a family in our congregation whose sister/daughter lived in another state. It was in the days when we were doing those tract distribution campaigns, for those who remember, in the '70's. A special day was set aside for distributing tracts for all Jdubs everywhere. After one day, it was back to business as usual.

  A member of the family told me that the out-of-state family member told her mom that her congregation had already got their tracts distributed. Caught in a lie! There are reasons why cults change their terminology and their ways of doing things. One of them is that it makes pretenders trip up from time to time.

  If this guy has been masquerading for 10 years, he has somehow been keeping up on what they're doing in his absence.
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  Knorr's wife

  by lenaga in

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  i need a photo of his wife nathan knorr.

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  can somebody help me?.

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  Welcome to the board, lenaga.

  We look forward to hearing more from you. I think English is not your first language. Do you live in the U.S.?

  I was a JW in the 1960's, under the regime of Nathan Knorr, but I never saw a picture of his wife.
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  Now this is strange...

  by factfinder in

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  i checked jw.org earlier today.

  the october 1 wt was up, but the pdf function did not work-still you could read the articles.

  the october g was up too, no pdf but you could read the articles.. oddly, after the article on belize it had an item about not missing the upcoming 2014 memorial of jesus' death.

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  Can one get disfellowshipped for computer semi-literacy which causes him to screw up the online magazine? Maybe reproof will be sufficient if this is the first offense. The WT encouraged computer illiteracy for so long that maybe it's payback time. How many high tech gurus want to work for the publishing corporation that doesn't pay anyway?