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  Have you reconnected with ex-JW's after you have left the Borg?

  by EdenOne in

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  after reading from another thread, i felt it was worth asking this question.. if you left the borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-jw's before or after you have left the wts?

  if that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold?

  just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the borg's doctrinal glue.. your experiences are welcome.. eden.

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  Mum

  The last congregation I was associated with is far away from where I live now. However, thanks to Facebook, I am in touch with one former "sister" in particular who I'm very fond of. A young man, who was only a child when I left, has also friended me on Facebook. Locally, I have LV101 and flyingfreefaerie. I have had a couple of phone conversations with a former elder I met on this board who lives not too far away.

  I find comfort in having these people to talk to from time to time. I think it's similar to men (and women perhaps) who have been in combat together in a war. There's a cameraderie that outsiders can't relate to.

  I have also been to several apostafests, but never met anyone at any of them that I had known as JW's. Still hoping.
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  Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

  in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

  our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

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  Mum

  Let them live on fear! Is dying at Armageddon worse than this sh*t? I don't THINK so!
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  Are You Raising An Introvert?

  by darth frosty in

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  its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

  it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

  this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

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  Mum

  Amerian culture highly favors people with great social skills. It's hard on introverts to go to job interviews and not look disinterested or "standoffish." My mother told me that I was "standoffish." Both of my biological parents had excellent social skills, They were ignorant as a box of rocks, unmotivated to achieve anything, and violent - but people loved them because they had the "gift of gab" and seemed so down home and folksy. As for my "career" success, I learned that working for temp agencies would get me hired much faster than an interview because they could see that I was capable even though I was quiet and withdrawn.

  In the '70's, I recall a Watchtower article that recommended not being an introvert (and, to some degree, it might be a choice?) but, rather, a "happy, loving extrovert." I maintain that extroverts are neither more happy nor more loving than introverts, though I can understand how it might appear to be the case.

  As I've gotten older, I've come out of my shell a lot. After having to look for jobs for much of my life, endure countless interviews, and interact with crazy religious people and wacky co-workers, I've learned to appear more friendly and talkative.

  I, and most introverts, I would wager, like myself just as I am and cannot see the possibilty of any growth or gain by not being just the way I was made.
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  An Unexpected 2 Hour Anti-Leads to an Unexpected Return Visit

  by truth_b_known in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just spent 30 minutes writing this story and lost it all before i hit submit.

  i'll try to be brief.. last night a former co-worker of my wife's called saying he was on his way to the house to drop off a job he would like her to do.

  we haven't seen him in over 8 years.

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  Mum

  Great story! I believe you've started him thinking. I think you'll see him again. Please keep us posted as he wakes up!
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  Mum

  Maybe you could slip a small piece of paper inside the tract with JWFacts' web address.

  Otherwise, take your time, walk slowly between houses, sit and chew the fat with householders about non-JW stuff, take frequent breaks, take along something to amuse yourself, and write a journal about your experiences. Then share all the info with us. I hope it's fun and interesting.
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  The two elders want to visit my sister the next saturday (this is the third visit)

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i phoned my sister and she told me that the elders called her to visit her again the next saturday morning.

  you can read the issues discussed in the past two visits:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/medical/281372/1/elders-answer-questions-about-the-changes-of-the-blood-ban#.u9e2dnlyops.

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  Mum

  Your sister does not need to meet with them if she does not want to. If she wants to, she needs to be well prepared for the possibility that they are coming to find out if she is still "loyal to the organization," and to measure her response very carefully. Personally, I would make it clear to them that I stood by what I said earlier and saw no need for further discussion.

  If the elders want to visit somebody, one cannot know in advance what their motive is, but there's at least a 99.99999% chance that it is not to tell you that you've been a "good girl or boy."

  Please keep us posted as to whether she meets with them and what the outcome is.
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  I wonder how many feel like this

  by watson in

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  2. friends

  http://www.afropunk.com/video/the-what-s-underneath-project-kelsey-lu-mcjunkins.

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  Mum

  What an inspiring young woman! Strangely enough, in the '50's and '60's (and maybe later, too), the WTS encouragedf musical pursuits because they had live music at the assemblies and, I believe, at the Kingdom Hall as well. Kelsey did what she had to do to become who she really was, and she is wonderful!
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  A thought about the convention: Anticipate Future Blessings...

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the parts had a skit with 3 or 4 young brothers playing a game of "what i will look forward to in the new system".

  one wanted a house by the beach.

  one wanted a house in the forest.

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  Mum

  The "New World/System/Order" or whatever thery're calling it now gives no incentive for achievement, development, challenge or anything that keeps life from being humdrum and completely boring. Apparently, there is no adventure, or anything to write books or plays about, no passion -- in short, a "life" with no life in it.

  As you say, they need to get busy doing whatever they want to do NOW because their future is devoid of opportunity.

  Your post reminds me of what one of my Spanish professors once asked: Would you really want to spend eternity with the people at Highland Park Baptist?
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  Where's Jesus When You Need Him-Cant He Defend His People From Islam?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of the oldest remaining christian groups in the world is close to being wiped out by the isis sunni caliphate.. the 'sort-of' history called, 'acts of apostles,' tells us that on the day of pentecost, among those who were in jerusalem on that day and supposedly witnessed the coming of the ns, were (acts 2:9), among others:.

  "parthians and medes and elamites and the inhabitants of mesopotamia ...".

  it's claimed that many of these people became christians before they returned home, and a christian church was formed early in the beginnings of christianity/.

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  Mum

  Interesting that you brought this up. This morning I was babysitting my great granddaughter and went to YouTube to find her some videos to watch. In the course of my searches, I accidentally ran across a video about a Muslim man who somehow "saw" Jesus and converted to Christianity. So then I typed into the search bar something like "Muslum man saw Jesus," and a long list of video's came up with stories about Muslim encounters with Jesus and subsequent conversion to Christianity.

  So I tried the opposite search and typed in something like "Christian converts to Islam." A list of videos came up, but none of them referred to a person having "seen" Mohammed or anything else hinting at the supernatural.

  I haven't drawn any conclusions, but I find the whole idea fascinating!
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  The Image of Jesus

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do wts portraythe messiah with neatly combed, cut hair and western origin looking in their pictures.

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  Mum

  You need to ask the WTS. I don't think anyone here thinks the way they do.