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Depression is a way of life for JW's

by butalbee in

the more i studied, the more i got sucked into being a witness, the more depressed i've become.

i don't want to do anything anymore, i mean what is the sense: the end of days is upon us!

the more i became involved with witnesses, the more i felt that i was loosing a part of myself.

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butalbee: The end all cure? Get out as fast as you can. Do some searches through this site, we have talked many times in the past about the large # of people in the JW religion that suffer severe depressive problems (and also about things like Chronic Fatigue/Fibromyalgia, etc which in my reseach are probably related in some ways to depresive problems). It is a oft-repeated, common observation among MANY JWs/x-JWs that the JWs seem to suffer from a much higher than normal instances of these.

Some things I think factor into this problem are a) the constant pressure to do more, more, more (preaching/meetings/study/please elders), b) the constant pressure one puts on themselves to be 'perfect' lest they sin and die at the big "A", c) the guilt trips laid upon you at every meeting and by freinds/family that you're not good enough, not doing enough, etc, and finally d) the downright weird freindship system in JWs whereby you run constant risk of losing freinds if you make a mistake or become viewed as a 'weak' one.

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Daily Text - Eccl. 3:13

by YoYoMama in

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eccl.

3:13 "every man should eat and indeed drink and see good for all his hard work.

it is the gift of god.".

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"No more will people die from old age, sickness, or accidents. Mourning, outcry, and pain will be gone."

Yep - just as soon as he zaps several billion people. No more problems after that! Or is there - there's that pesky Satan who at the end of the 1000 years is going to get most of mankind zapped yet again - forgot about that. Maybe god just likes to zap most of mankind avery few thousand years ...

But at least he wants us to eat and drink while we're waiting to be zapped. I guess he's better than Hitler - Hitler didn't have refreshments for the Jews when they were waiting in line for the gas chamber.

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One of the greatest problems for the mankind...

by Erich in

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one of the greatest problems for the future of our economy is only known by few "insiders".

even wts do not know this matter.

since i'm a patent-expert, it's perhaps my own business to talk about it.

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Ah HA! So armageddon is'a comin' because we've run out of things to INVENT! Makes so much sense, have you written your buds the GB to inform them that you, a regular Joe, have disovered valuable bible truths about armageddon? Maybe their phone call with god got cut off before they could get that flash of 'new barf', I mean, 'new light'

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When Revelation Turns Obsolete

by metatron in

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one of the reasons i thought armageddon was close at hand was.

the impending obsolescence of the bible as a source of revelation.. the bible was written within the context of a large number of.

conditions that eventually would be changed by technology, i reasoned,.

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So to sum up - god inspires Paul to write (parts of) the bible as a guide to humanity - yet Paul speaks in such a way that totally confuses the majority of mankind for thousands of years. Makes sense.

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Watchtower Propaganda

by JosephAlward in

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many have argued that articles in awake!

in recent years show that watchtower was letting itself be told what do by the purple beast, namely, promote the united nations in its writings.

i can understand how many might quickly find support for this claim, for there are, indeed, many articles in awake!

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The Awake articles are quite ingenious actually. To a JW they push all the right "god's kingdom is the only true answer" buttons. However, to a non-JW (I.E., the UN) the articles appear very freindly to the UNs work, even if the message is that god will do a better job. I doubt the UN had a problem with the articles explaining god's kingdom as the final solutions, in fact I bet many at the UN are religious people and may even agree w/ ythe Awake's conclusions.

The big 'BUT' that coming is this though ... the WTBTS message throughout the many years has been completely ANTI-UN, so dead set on slamming the UN. Then all of the sudden these articles come along with the tone, "The UN's doing the best it can, of course god's kingdom will do better". No slathering denouciations in them though. It's OBVIOUS when you realize they were submitting these articles to the UN the intent of them.

And as for your thought that the WTBTS was 'using' the UN to 'discredit' them, that's not very well thought out. They've been doing that for years without being an associated DPI. They had much bigger goals in mind than using the UN libaray to 'discredit' the UN. Think $$$$$$$$. Think having ammo with countries like France, etc. Think having access to the UN's resources world-wide. Think having a big 'buddy' to run crying to when your 'rights' have been violated somewhere.

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

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You need to do some real investigations about what other religions believe. You are parroting the standard JW 'none of those religions teach the basic bible truths' line we've ALL heard WAY too many times. JWs teach their interpretation of the bible, which as we can see a) has been wrong many times in the past, b) changes constantly, and c) is some man's/men's idea about the bible. Why should I think that their current interpretation is any more valid than the one they had 100 years ago? 50 years ago? Or the one they'll have in 25 years?

BTW, ALL the current beleifs the JW holds have been or are taught by other religions. The truely is 'nothing new under the sun' to borrow a bible phrase.

You going to still cling to those old codgers in Brooklyn when they rip 1914 out from under you? Because I can garauntee you that they will change that in the future. They've already 'backed off' from using that date so much. They know it's wrong, and just can't get out of it.

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

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So, YoYo, pull out your bible and prove to me why I should follow, WITHOUT QUESTION, a group of imperfect (now scenile) old men from Brooklyn, just cause they say I should. I'm waiting ...

Prove to me from the bible why I should follow a group of men who declared that the end was coming in 1914/1925/1940/1975/2000? And were wrong everytime?

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A Spiritual Man/Woman

by SC in

the spiritually mature man/woman is one that is under the headship of jehovah and jesus.

1 corinthians 11:3 "but i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.

the typical man feels that he is the head of the family and have only themselves to consider, he doesn't even think of what god would think of his actions or thoughts.

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Wow, you're good. You don't even know my name, yet you have the godly athority to declare me NOT spiritually mature? I hadn't gotten the press release form god that declared YOU appointed judge of spiritual maturity ... guess I'll have to go back and look again.

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Shooting.....Factory in Goshen, Indiana

by dubla in

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its not too often that this magnitude of a tragedy hits our small neck of the woods, but this one is big.

apparently a disgruntled employee burst into a factory (nu wood), and shot around 35 employees......no details on the shooter yet, or the casulties.

the factory is located in goshen, which is about 10 miles from my office here in elkhart, indiana.

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Yes, Fred, Jehovah's name has already got TONS of reproach heaped upon it ...

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Why can some question and others not

by joelbear in

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we are not jehovah's witnesses because of a variety of circumstances, but one thing we all share is that we question.. what factors come together to make us questioners?.

intelligence?

but i know a lot of very smart non-questioning jehovah's witnesses.. bravery?

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"Either way I win."

Might want to rethink that one. Cause you don't win if a) your life was wasted serving a printing corporation, and/or b) you are NOT resurrected. Because in that case you will have shot your one chance for a good life.

For you bible types, what about the thought of Satan transforming himself into an angle of light? What if you JWs are really serving Satan while being all convinced that you're serving god, eh? How could you know for sure - you dirty devil worshipers?