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  Fifth Estate-program times? for usa

  by wednesday in

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  i am so sorry but can't find the thread that gave the times for direct tv.

  my aunt has direct tv and i would like her to see this.

  wedsedited by - wednesday on 30 january 2003 9:31:0.

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  I have written down: Thursday (tonight) at 10PM Eastern on DirectTV channel 366.
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  My visit to the kingdom Hall

  by RR in

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  2. experiences

  so last friday, i'm doing my rounds [i work for the post office as a letter carrier], our office was recently reorganized, and they added to my route in the process, one of my stops?

  .... kingdom hall, so i walk in just to have a look around, after all it's been over ten years since i've seen the inside of one.

  old lady cleaning the toilets, two young women chatting and and older gentlemen.

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  Ha, now that would be funny. Do you think she was trembling in her boots, being in the presence of such an evil, demon filled apostate!?
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  is this acceptable punishment for kids of JWS?

  by phillipau in

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  i am not a jw myself but i am wondering if this is the proper punishment for kids of jws ?.

  my 2 neices are aged 12 &10 their step dad and mother are practising jw,s and the step dad thinks this is acepptable punishment for these girls.

  he pulls down their knickers and hits these girls with a belt untill there are welts on their backsides.

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  Well, this is #1000, and a good one to use that for. I think that 'spanking' was a very common form of punishment for many years - only in the recent past has the human race in civilized parts of the world begun to question it as a whole. When I was in school, they still paddled kids. We had some horror stories about the wicked mean paddle the principle was supposed to have in his office(I never got to see it )

  I know being raised a JW in the south, it was by far the common event to recieve a 'good spanking'. I know it was (and still is to some extent, though not as much anymore) highly recommended by the elders in every hall I ever attended. It was not an uncommon sight to see babies as young as 6 months getting 'smacks' for being 'loud' at meetings. "Train them from infancy" was the mantra. Of course nowdays I doubt they'd ever say anything bold enough to get them sued (like they used to). And I guess they never cared that making a young child sit still and quiet - and supposed to 'listen' to an adult program for two hours is really kind of perverse. (Well, it's supposed to be adult, but I don't think the JW programs pass for adult content anymore. Unless your IQ is 48.)

  So I guess to sum up, I don't feel that JW beliefs were/are n ecessarily the main cause of over the top beatings to occur, I think that they enabled an abuser to get away with it, to justify it to himself/herself and others, and to cover it up. I certainly have never heard of a case where the elders steped in and a) tried to stop it, or b) reported it to athorities. I have however, personally seen many cases of elders abusing their own kids.

  And on the case noted at the top of this thread, I would think this definitely borders on perverse. No man should ever do that to a kid regardless of age/sex, but moreso for preteen/teens.
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  ARMAGEDDON!

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

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  the following picture is from the watchtower, february 15th 1975 issue, page 100:.

  " book, 1988, page 52:.

  " book, 1988, page 127:.

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  Both my sister and I used to have nightmares about those images.

  Me too. Bad ones. And everytime there was a violent thunderstorm I wanted to piss my pants. I won't even go into my utter terror and nightmares of those awful demons! You know how you were supposed to be able to say "Jehovah" and the demons would flee? Well, in my re-occuring nightmare demons were everywhere, and would never leave as I screamed and shouted "Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah" over and over until I woke up. No wonder I was so f***ed up as a kid.

  Edit: Ahhhh - my next post is the magical 1,000th post! Whever will I use it for??????!!!!!!!

  Edited by - NameWithheld on 28 January 2003 11:50:16
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  ARMAGEDDON!

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following picture is from the watchtower, february 15th 1975 issue, page 100:.

  " book, 1988, page 52:.

  " book, 1988, page 127:.

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  I don't know why I noticed this, but for some reason it jumped out at me as I scrolled through the pictures ...

  Note the thing that looks like a set of three stairs in the upper right hand corner... Now look at this picture...

  Why in the world would they put stairs into these gloom and doom pictures? I've never thought a set of stairs would detach from a building and fall into a pit. Weird.

  Oh, and while I'm at it, why in the first picture was Jehuber pissed at the tiger and kill him? Did he not want to eat straw or something? And where in the world did a tiger come from in the middle of the city? Was he just out for a Sunday stroll?
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  Deceit of an ELDER and his SON

  by Pking in

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  new story.

  me and my 3 bros. on holiday with friend his sis and her friend which they secretly brought with.

  non jw.

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  Your's is a most common experience. I and many, many others have shared in this version of 'Watchtower Justice'. Rule #1, the elders protect their own. Rule #2, see rule #1. If you are not one of the 'special in crowd' you are toast. The main thing to realize is that god has nothing to do with this style of 'justice'. This is a perfect chance for you to investigate what you have been taught your entire life. After all, the Watchtower encourages people to put their religion to the test, and see if it is true.
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  Peace and security?

  by Nickey in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently have a stumper in talking to my mother.

  she's agreed that she's going to be open minded and hear me out because she's starting to have slight doubts about the organization.

  but the one thing she always throws out is that the society said that there would be talks of "peace and security" and that they must be the truth since everyone keeps saying "peace and security".. i'm still learning myself, so i try to do some research.

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  peace and security

  You know, this is another annoying JW-ism, trying to tie this into some literal 'event' that has or will take place like there would be some billboard that said - "Yes JW's, this is it, finally the real declaration of peace and security". Fact is mankind has always striven to provide 'peace and security' for himself and family, and by extention, for their country. How many times over the past 3000 years do you think that gov'ts and people have thought to themselves, or declared that now they have peace in the realm? Probably every time a war is over...

  I recall how excited my mother was in 1986 when the UN made it the 'year of peace and security'. Surely this was it. Well, I guess not.

  Don't you think after the middle east crisis is over that the US gov't will beat their chest in pride and declare peace? Of course. And it'll last until the next crisis, rinse and repeat as needed. Same old, same old.
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  NFL Playoffs: Week-By-Week Predictions

  by Funchback in

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  2. physical

  so, here are my first round playoff predictions (as if any of you care...lol!

  colts 23, jets 15 (the jets had their super bowl vs. the packers).

  packers 21, falcons 17 (i have a hunch that atlanta may pull the upset but you can't root against the pack at lambeau).

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  That matrix commercial in high def rocked

  No kidding, when it kicked on w/ 5.1 surround - WOW
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  Assembly memories

  by freedom96 in

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  i remember baking in the hot sun, with the outdoor district conventions.

  the only thing i liked about them was lunch time.

  back in the day, then i could grab the little coupons, ten to a page, each worth 10 cents.

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  This is still a really iritating event for me - I watch my family who cannot afford to ever have a good vacation, scrimp and pinch to get them and their 3 kids to these horribly boring "we are so great" pep sessions. And do you think that the WTBTS could actually hold it in a convenient location (the major city they live 15 mins from)? Hell no. Make 'em drive 4 hours so the WTBTS can save $100.
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  NFL Playoffs: Week-By-Week Predictions

  by Funchback in

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  2. physical

  so, here are my first round playoff predictions (as if any of you care...lol!

  colts 23, jets 15 (the jets had their super bowl vs. the packers).

  packers 21, falcons 17 (i have a hunch that atlanta may pull the upset but you can't root against the pack at lambeau).

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  Well, it wasn't a nail biter at all, but it was in high def, and the commercials rocked as usual, so I'd say it was good