Else, you can get them from the hall for free - I did it for years :) Just don't drop any $$ in the box. They won't like it, but they can't say anything about it.
The downside is that you would actually have to attend the meetings <bleeech>
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How to get free Watchtowers???
by Elsewhere ini have been trying to think of a way for me to consistently receive copies of the watchtower and awake without having to give my money to the wts.
i'm stumped.
i can't go the kh to get them because they will not keep giving you stuff if you don't pay, errr, make donations.
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Thought I wasn't supposed to grow old here?
by WingCommander inyeah..............my parents told me when i was 5 that i would never get to high school, as this evil system of things would end long before that!!
well....here i am, pushing 30. i had to go to hs, college, and even get a job!!
imagine that!
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Happy man, that great that you and your family say they are so happy, and not mis-treated, and have taken advantage of things like higher education. And how you say that you were not pushed into doing things like pioneering. But that does not negate the thousands, and probably millions of JWs that have been, and continue to be. How can you say this is a 'regonal' difference when you read these words from the Wt mag? ...
*** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling... True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order?
These things were told to my mother, and myself since our childhood. Now my mother's a grandmother, barely scrapping by day to day, and has NO plans/funds for retirement. She will work or live off gov't welfare until the day she dies. THIS is the reality that is present in MOST JW's lives. Now you care to ask why people are so negative about it?
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Satan was right behind me this morning >>...
by WingCommander inyep.................i was driving on the interstate from my residence to the hanger to make my flights over the east coast this morning, when i saw him.
him, and his little helpers.
a whole damned car load full of them.
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What is all this bs about 90 mph, knee touching ground, have to do with being a safe driver.
It tells you that I have honed my riding skills to a point that I can control a vehicle (motorcycle) beyond the capabilites that most people have. Note that I made a point of telling you that the above was done on a closed road corse. It tells you that (probably) my reaction time and non-instintual reactions to fast happening situations is well trained. Note I am not trying to make out like I am god's gift to driving/riding, far from it, but I am much more well trained/experianced than 95% of the population.
Hell, when I took the hi speed pursuit test for the sheriffs dept, I had to do a rear wheel slide at 65 mph sideways and park the 18 foot long car in a 20 foot space between two parked cars. Had to do this without touching the two cars or the curb. Then had to get the car out in 120 seconds without touching either car or the curb.
I think that is awesome, and tells me that you are probably far and above beyond the average driver. I would not feel unsafe crusing at 90mph on the freeway with you And I can't top that - I haven't practiced that - I'd love too, but don't have the car(s) I'd wish to damage while practicing I'll have to be content with the tracks days I get to attend.
But you don't respond to my assertation that to truely drop death rate what we really need is better education and licensing controls. Some of the people who operate motor vehicles in this country probably shouldn't even be walking in public, much less operating a 3000+lb machine.
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Satan was right behind me this morning >>...
by WingCommander inyep.................i was driving on the interstate from my residence to the hanger to make my flights over the east coast this morning, when i saw him.
him, and his little helpers.
a whole damned car load full of them.
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Outoftheorg,
How do you explain the fact that while federal speed limits were raised, and in some few cases eliminated (out west) the nat'l death rate dropped? How do you explain the fact that Eurpeon countries w/ better driver education and licensing have areas w/ no limits and yet enjoy a MUCH better safety record then the US? No, I don't buy the FUD that the US lawmakers push at us - the 'speed kills' mantra is not true. Speed is only one of the factors in any given crash, and often not the most signifigant. It's not the speed but the appropriateness of that speed. Sadly, the fact of life in the US, is that the majority of the people on the road don't need to be driving period, much less hogging the road in their SUVs and having no clue as to what is going on in the world around them. Them hitting you at 55mph will kill you just as dead as them hitting you at 85mph. If we all lived by the 'speed kills' mantra - we'd either be in horse and buggys or 5mph model-T's. Though back in the day, a horse and buggy crash could kill you too!
Notice I am NOT advocating no limits, nor saying it's safe to go 90 in residential areas, etc. But 25mph on a 4 lane commercial road for example, is rediculous, and nothing more than revenue generation. And 55/65 on wide open road systems designed for 80-100 is the same.
And don't presume to tell me that I WILL kill someone - I've been driving the way I have for 14 crash free years - not even a fender bender. I have taken advanced driving courses, and spend a lot of time on the track w/ my car. Can you control a 90mph rear wheel slide? I can. And have. Do you know how fast you can stop your car, how fast you can manuvour/turn? Do you practice? Not reacting or panicing is a very commmon tread to most wrecks. If the situation demands it, I won't panic like most people who have no idea what car control is...
Oh and to further twist the panties, I race motorcycles too. Ever had a knee touching the pavement while turning at 145mph while it was raining? I have - course again, this was NOT on public roads, but a race course.
If the lawmakers really wanted to drop the death rate, they would educate the driving population, and enforce laws that penalized stupidity, and somehow (tough one) get rid of the drunk/impared drivers.
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JW's and stuff
by JoeSomebody init appears as if this is a haven for those who hate the jehovah's witnesses.
if that is too tough of a stance, then this place is a haven for those who hate the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
many are apostates.
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Some people, in my opinion, may take it a bit far. If they feel they need to shun family members rather than help them, then they are making Christianity and God look rather bad. I have always felt that those who need help should get help. Shunning has its place if done correctly. Everybody needs to make sure that what they are doing brings glory to God.
Ha ha. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but in light of the recent KM article on how to treat df'ed/da'ed people, apparantly your "Some people" includes the gov body of JWs. Boy, that Brother Some sure does believe some wacky stuff.
So you just publicly disagreed with the Faithful and Disctreet Slave(TM) - when should we schedule your judicial committe and pronounce the disfellowshipping?
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Satan was right behind me this morning >>...
by WingCommander inyep.................i was driving on the interstate from my residence to the hanger to make my flights over the east coast this morning, when i saw him.
him, and his little helpers.
a whole damned car load full of them.
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Speed limits are decided on, using the hiway condition "width,curves, exits, number of cars, in a given time, etc.
I knew 'speed' would polarize people
More often than not, in the US at least, speed limits are not set as above. They are set to allow Mr. Patrol officer to collect revenue for the (city/state/etc). Many speed limits in the US are a sham, and if they were not, why would you see Mr Patrol officer sitting right behind a 25mph sign waiting for someone who didn't slow from 55 to 25 in time? Now, I'm not knocking the cops who police the streets, they didn't set the rules, just enforce them, nor am I going to the total opposite and saying that speed limits themselves are wrong/unfair whatever. But many times, they are set way to low for the conditions.
As for your assertation that 'speed kills' - and increasing speed increases your risk of injury / death, that is an easy argument to trot out because it has a kernal of truth to it. But 30mph can and will kill you just as fast as 90mph can. And let's face it, you can point to whatever you want, but the truth of the matter is that the VAST majority of accidents are caused by inattentive drivers. Were they going too fast? Yes, because they were not in control. But probably 10mph was too fast for them to be driving. Improve the driver education and certification in this country and accidents would decrease. Don't give every Tom Dick and Harry a license just cause "they're american damn it, and have the right to drive!" Get people off the road who have diminished capabilities. The people and vehicles that are allowed to operate in this country are rediculous. Lower speed limits and it has no impact. This was proven when they raised the 55mph limit - and deaths coutinued to drop.
A person doing 55 when they smack a tree while dialing their phone is just as dead as the one doing 85 when they do the same. Today's interstate system was designed for high speed.
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Satan was right behind me this morning >>...
by WingCommander inyep.................i was driving on the interstate from my residence to the hanger to make my flights over the east coast this morning, when i saw him.
him, and his little helpers.
a whole damned car load full of them.
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O goody, we can start a speed kills flame war!
Personally, I can and do drive 90+ on the interstate, and be perfectly safe. Now of course, the vast majority of US drivers have no business driving a bumper car, much less navigating their 4000lb status-mobile SUV - these are the ones you find crusing along at 67MPH in the passing lane (notice I did NOT say 'fast' lane - it's a PASSING lane, not a FAST lane) talking on their cell phones, diddling the radio dial, looking at the screaming brats in the back seat. Oh yes, they belong behind the wheel of a car! The driver education - actually complete lack of - in the US sucks!
The Germans are a great example of how a well designed road system combined with an educated driving population can work. Although lately they are 'americanizing' for the worse.
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You will never grow old
by Elsewhere ini was looking at the quotes web site and came across a jewel: *** awake!
because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.
of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, jesus foretold: 'this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
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Powerful words for sure. One of my most vivid and early memories is still how many times my mother would say in a half lamenting, half joking way how she never expected to get old enough to get married, once married, old enough to have children, then to see her children in school, then in high school, then married. Now she's a grandmother, broke, and still shilling books and mags for a heartless corp. Convenced she won't get old enough to die in this system. A sad reflection on life now.
I'm glad she told me the above, and though in her own way she was trying to be 'encouraging' in her example of faith, all it did is tell me what a bunch of bunk it all was.
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Louisville, KY apostates?
by Jesus Christ inseeing as i'm not very good at this whole "savior of the world" thing i'm giving it up and going into the computer networking field.
obviously, there's not much work up here in heaven so i'm having to come down and join you silly mortals.
i'll be moving to louisville, ky. anybody from there that would want to have a little apostafest or something like that?
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Save me Jebus!
Email me, my email's in my profile!
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Super Bowl Predictions
by WildTurkey in.
im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.
ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?
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Yep, dubla, the fishy dudes have a rep for blowing it in Dec too. Of course, so far they're proveing that wrong this year. I still am suprised they shut down the Raiders like they did - hats off to them. Looks like Marino's passing record will still stand. Still don't like 'em though
But for a little turn around rub your face in it - the pack look like themselves again. T.O. was Taken Over by the pack defense, and shut down. I think the pack can handle Feidler and Williams if need be