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  JW article in major Canadian newspaper today...

  by Pathofthorns in

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  2. friends

  i almost didn't have time to read the morning's paper, but a banner at the top of the front page entitled "cheerleading for jehovah" got my attention.

  interesting comments in the toronto star can be read here.

  the article has obvious input from the society and seems to be a pr type move in light of recent bad canadian press (calgary blood case) and likely future canadian programs exposing jws and child abuse.. interesting comments:.

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  Nanoprobe

  Dont miss upcoming stories by Cristina Simonetto.

  Faith and Betrayal follows the lives of three young Jehovah's Witness women as they come to realize that their religion has betrayed them. Faith and the City showed how Deanna Brown, Lisa Gollan, and Karla Brown wholehearted desired to serve God through the Watchtower Organization. The girls opted against university educations and chose part time jobs to allow them to devote 70 hours per month to the preaching work.

  Follow the heartbreaking story of these women as they discover that things are not always as they seem. They realize the wonderful information in the Protect Your Children magazine is different from actual WTBS policy . Read along as we see the girls slowly come to understand that their answers to disfellowshipping questions were not correct. Finally they see they are governed by unwritten law taught by a secret society in private meetings.
  Read the womens attempts to find husbands and jobs as their youth fades and their education are inadequate.

  Edited by - nanoprobe on 30 July 2002 16:48:15
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  JW article in major Canadian newspaper today...

  by Pathofthorns in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i almost didn't have time to read the morning's paper, but a banner at the top of the front page entitled "cheerleading for jehovah" got my attention.

  interesting comments in the toronto star can be read here.

  the article has obvious input from the society and seems to be a pr type move in light of recent bad canadian press (calgary blood case) and likely future canadian programs exposing jws and child abuse.. interesting comments:.

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  Nanoprobe

  Faith and the city

  By Cristina Simonetto SPECIAL TO THE STAR

  How on earth does the Watchtower keep the "good" press constantly rolling out? Did they ask around in Canada, "We had some bad press lately on the blood issue and disfellowshipping, any of you brothers know a reporter?"

  Sure enough, Deanna Brown, does. So she invites the reporter to a Dave Matthews concert and the rest is history.
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  What I wrote Dr.Phil

  by Jesika in

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  2. friends

  my name is jesika and i was raised one of jehovah's witnesses.

  i was what they call disfellowshipped or shunned by the tender age of 15. i haven't spoken to anyone on my dad's side of the family other than my dad for over 11yrs.

  they refuse to have anything to do with me because of their religion.

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  Nanoprobe

  You go girl!

  Also I want to ask you if you know a girl named Jena from Carrollton? Her father's name was Keith, she has two brothers, Erik & Keith, one died recently and a sister.

  If so just say yes and I'll email you directly (we have a friend in common)
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  Incest accuse , witchunt?

  by happy man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i have read a lot of this here, and evrything bill say, i must say this is a very delicat and difficult issu.

  almost unbelevebel difficult.. i dont want to defend abusers, fare from that, i hate them,and think the best is to take ther balls away, but i think it is important that this not turns out to be a witchunt on men, like it was inn in sweden in the some time ago, some swedeish famus writer say this is the moderm times witchunt.. in 1600 children was turnig inn ther mothers and say they was witch, and they was burnd , who can go against children.. here some social educated peopel find when they ask children, that if they think wery carefull, they must remeber that some have abuse them when they was littel children, we have also some case where fadher was realesd from prison after the children confesd that they was lying.. so this writer say that men is modern times witch, if you understan what i meen.. intresting thaught on a very difficult issu, but i think it is easy that this thing can turn out to be a hunt .. wher even some innocent is condemd.

  this was only my thaughts late inn the swedish summer .

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  Nanoprobe

  First of all I want to reiterate that we are all on the same team. I just want to clear up some basic misconceptions that I often see posted on this forum.

  False accusations I am sure occur but not to the extent publicized on the net. (Ill post more on this later)

  Now I would like to discuss a few points from the current Department of Justices Statistics. The report is entitled Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement: Victim, Incident, and Offender Characteristics . _

  I believe this report is best hard evidence available.

  The introduction of the report states:

  To law enforcement and the public, sexual assaults, and especially the sexual assaults of young children are a major social concern. While a few highly publicized incidents are engraved in the publics consciousness, there is little empirically based information on these crimes. Until recently, law enforcement and policymakers had few hard facts on which to base their response to these crimes.

  After reading the facts below I am sure you will agree that the conviction rate for sexual assault is dismal.

  Probability of arrest and clearance

  The NIBRS (FBIs National Incident-Based Reporting System) data indicate that an arrest was made in 27% of all sexual assault victimizations. Assaults against the youngest victims were the least likely of juvenile victimizations to result in arrest. An offender was arrested in just 19% of the sexual assaults of children under age 6, compared to 33% of victims ages 6 through 11, and 32% of victims ages 12 through 17. (Source http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/saycrle.pdf)

  An arrest is not a conviction so all told the numbers are pretty dismal for the VICTIMS not for the accused.
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  Why Wasn't British Paedophile DF'ed When Convicted

  by ErieGuy in

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  Nanoprobe

  ErieGuy

  That's the same thing they told the victim's family in our hall. Though the Society says that individual elders make the decisions the evidence proves that the same directions are followed worldwide.

  It was a sickening site to watch the congregation welcome the pedophile back to the hall. He came in the door and different members walked up and hugged him. Off to the side was the little girl and her family, I wanted to puke.

  We fooght the elders, and everybody else, but it did absolutely no good. We finally got invited into the back room with a couple of elders. That was an interesting experience.......first the chief witch doctor pulls his little god from his pocket and than offers incantations to convince us of his power. But goodness knows, I had been a JW long enough to know not to fear the evil spirit forces. Okay, Okay, maybe that wasn't exactly what happened, maybe it was just a prayer.......
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  Where are the Feminine women?

  by 4skins in

  1. jw
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  some months ago i took my annual vacation to the land of kangaroos--you know--where men are men and sheep are skittish?

  as a social commentator i have a vested interest observing cultural changes and trends, etc.

  in the professions and trades in oz the genders dress as androgynous as their counterparts in the us.

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  Nanoprobe

  to heck with the feminine women discussion, just describe the

  very feminine, hand-made textile acoutrements

  in detail and you'll have the ladies interest.
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  Incest accuse , witchunt?

  by happy man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i have read a lot of this here, and evrything bill say, i must say this is a very delicat and difficult issu.

  almost unbelevebel difficult.. i dont want to defend abusers, fare from that, i hate them,and think the best is to take ther balls away, but i think it is important that this not turns out to be a witchunt on men, like it was inn in sweden in the some time ago, some swedeish famus writer say this is the moderm times witchunt.. in 1600 children was turnig inn ther mothers and say they was witch, and they was burnd , who can go against children.. here some social educated peopel find when they ask children, that if they think wery carefull, they must remeber that some have abuse them when they was littel children, we have also some case where fadher was realesd from prison after the children confesd that they was lying.. so this writer say that men is modern times witch, if you understan what i meen.. intresting thaught on a very difficult issu, but i think it is easy that this thing can turn out to be a hunt .. wher even some innocent is condemd.

  this was only my thaughts late inn the swedish summer .

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  Nanoprobe

  JanH

  First of all I would just like to say that even trading emails with you is a privilege for a relatively new comer as myself.

  However, I must disagree with your statement that unsubstantiated and false are the same.

  Unsubstantiated is unproven, uncorroborated, unsupported or charges that are not actionable for one reason or another. That does not mean the charges are false.

  Much discussion has been given that child molesters do not have two witnesses and with Judicial Committees or in a court of law people are innocent until proven guilty. A shouting match of he said she said is not a convicting case.

  The point I made in the earlier post was that Mr. Alva (Samanthas murderer) had been previously charged with sexual assault of his girl friends daughters. The charges were not substantiated, however, nor were they false.

  It is because of the difficulty of proving sexual assault charges based on the testimony of one witnesses that new Federal Rules of Evidence were adopted in 1995. Basically the law allows a previous CHARGE (not a conviction) of sexual assault to be introduced as evidence in a court case.

  Rules 413 and 414 specifically provide that in any case in which the defendant is accused of sexual assault or molestation, the defendant's commission of any other similar offenses is admissible "for its bearing on any matter to which it is relevant." Rule 415 specifically extends the rule to any civil cases arising out of sexual assault or molestation.

  The new rules will supersede in sex offense cases the restrictive aspects of Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b). In contrast to Rule 404(b)'s general prohibition of evidence of character or propensity, the new rules for sex offense cases authorize admission and consideration of evidence of an uncharged offense for its bearing "on any matter to which it is relevant." This includes the defendant's propensity to commit sexual assault or child molestation offenses, and assessment of the probability or improbability that the defendant has been falsely or mistakenly accused of such an offense.

  Why is this type of evidence allowed in sexual abuse cases?

  In support of the new rules, advocates argued that a history of similar acts in child molestation cases, for example, tends to be probative because it demonstrates an unusual disposition that does not exist in ordinary people. In addition, the difficulties proving cases of child sexual abuse were cited to Congress. (Source http://www.smith-lawfirm.com/Rule415.html)
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  Data Base of Bishops who protected Priests

  by Nanoprobe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please glance over this news article.

  can we develop a similar database?

  can we interest news reporters in doing this type investigation?

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  Nanoprobe

  Let's do it! Let's email them! Just click on their names (in the article) for their emails.
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  Data Base of Bishops who protected Priests

  by Nanoprobe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please glance over this news article.

  can we develop a similar database?

  can we interest news reporters in doing this type investigation?

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  Nanoprobe

  Please glance over this news article. Can we develop a similar DataBase? Can we interest news reporters in doing this type investigation?
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  Incest accuse , witchunt?

  by happy man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i have read a lot of this here, and evrything bill say, i must say this is a very delicat and difficult issu.

  almost unbelevebel difficult.. i dont want to defend abusers, fare from that, i hate them,and think the best is to take ther balls away, but i think it is important that this not turns out to be a witchunt on men, like it was inn in sweden in the some time ago, some swedeish famus writer say this is the moderm times witchunt.. in 1600 children was turnig inn ther mothers and say they was witch, and they was burnd , who can go against children.. here some social educated peopel find when they ask children, that if they think wery carefull, they must remeber that some have abuse them when they was littel children, we have also some case where fadher was realesd from prison after the children confesd that they was lying.. so this writer say that men is modern times witch, if you understan what i meen.. intresting thaught on a very difficult issu, but i think it is easy that this thing can turn out to be a hunt .. wher even some innocent is condemd.

  this was only my thaughts late inn the swedish summer .

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  Nanoprobe

  NO!! NO!! Please reread my post. Most Child Molestation claims are NOT false they are simply UNSUBSTANTIATED.

  Intentionally false reports as a percentage of unsubstantiated reports:
  . 00999634 (less than 1 out of 100 unsubstantiated reports)

  These are the governments numbers.

  In a twelve state study of approximately 9000 divorces cases, child sexual abuse allegations were made in less than 2% of contested divorces involving child custody. Source: Association of Family Conciliation Courts, 1990.