i_drank_the_wine

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  What IS the point?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  i was wondering the other day, what am i doing here?.

  what benefits are to come from my involvement on the forum?

  why do i keep thinking about the jws?

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  i_drank_the_wine

  Because even though most of us here aren't JW's anymore and are working on moving on with our lives, trying to make the best of our lives, etc - it will never take away the fact that a great many of us here:

  - wasted a childhood, early adulthood, and/or other significant important time in your life on a cult

  - lost our entire families for having the balls to think outside the box

  - were mistreated and/or thrown to the curb like a piece of garbage by "god's loving organization" once we stepped out of line

  - had memorable, most likely unpleasant, experiences of some sort that impacted our lives courtesy of the borganization

  I know personally, although I'm completely mentally free of their poison for years now, that it still makes me angry. It still hurts to lose a wife and a family (although in hindsight, they were shitty people) just because you don't want to devote your life to an invisible ancient Hebrew imaginary friend. Being in my early 30's, it's still fresh in my mind that just over 2 decades of my life from birth onward were a complete waste of time and arguable detrimentel to my life in many ways.

  Wasting 20+ years on a lie that your parents, other family, and other JW's burned into your head stings the nostrils. It is not something that fades quickly.
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  WHAT DOES THE WATCHTOWER Really TEACH?

  by 00DAD in

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  what does the watchtower really teach?

  i have been developing a list of wt doctrines/beliefs that are plainly in opposition to clear, simple scriptural teachings/ideas.

  these could be used to clarify important questions and address key topics for discussion.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  That's some sick crap really. If your family is JW's, and you leave the JW's, in their minds they are being commanded by god, through the WT/governing body, to hate you. That is so completely unatural of a precedent - hating your own family over opinion of god.
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  I wish I was dead ...

  by talesin in

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  not much to follow that .... day-umn, life is hard sometimes .... .

  feel free to encourage me ... i need it.. .

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  i_drank_the_wine

  Its ok man, it happens. I actually tried at one point a couple years back. Not something fun to wake up to. Don't make the same mistake, there's always gonna be something that happens that makes you glad you're alive, even if it's not as frequently as we'd like.
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  RESCUE OPERATION: What did you do to help others Wake-Up?

  by 00DAD in

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  please share anything--whatever facts, methods, ideas, etc.--that you found successful in helping other family members or friends to "wake-up" and leave jws.

  also, include anythings that you found didn't work or even backfired.

  i'm particularly interested in how you were able to reach family members that initially shunned you out of mis-guided loyalty due to wt indoctrination.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  NONE. I made the mistake of giving people a list of reasons that I do not believe the religion: 607, failed predictions, UN, blood hypocrisy, and on and on. In hindsight, I probably just made my "family" and "friends" more loyal to the cult.
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  Overlapping generation

  by mankkeli in

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  if according to the wt, overlapping generation theory is true,then someone born in 1914 could live to be 100, then overlap with another person born in 2014 who also lives to be 100,bringing us to 2114. by that time any?

  jehovah's witness will have long forgotten that once upon a time 1914 was pointed to as the start of the last days.. .

  a close insider in patterson told me john barr proposed the overlapping theory on the gb meeting.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  Eventually they'll just say that a generation to Jehovah is a very long time because for him a year is like a day, but it's still coming any second now, but still keep giving us your moneys too. Thanks, agape, Teh Guberning Body.
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  Do you ever fantasize...

  by i_drank_the_wine in

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  ...about funny revenge plots on the jw's?.

  - dressing up properly, going to a random memorial where the people don't know you, and "partaking of the emblems".

  - going to a random kingdom hall where the people don't know you, give a couple "real" jw comments to earn trust / cred., give a third comment that contains the "f" curse in it, then act like nothing happened.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  ...about funny revenge plots on the JW's?

  Like:

  - dressing up properly, going to a random memorial where the people don't know you, and "partaking of the emblems"

  - going to a random kingdom hall where the people don't know you, give a couple "real" JW comments to earn trust / cred., give a third comment that contains the "F" curse in it, then act like nothing happened

  - again, going to a random hall where you're unknown, sitting towards the front of the stage for the meeting, quietly walking onto stage while everyone is reading some paragraph or scripture, drop trousers, deposit a #2 on the stage, flee through fire exit.

  - attending an assembly or convention and jump into the baptism pool
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  I need advice, I know many of you have been in this same situation.

  by shakyground in

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  i've been seeing this woman who is very special to me for quite some time now.

  there is only one problem, she goes to church every sunday and tuesday.

  she keeps asking me to come and complaining that i don't even give it a chance.

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  i_drank_the_wine

  Man, unless she treats you like a king and is a black belt in BJ's it just doesn't seem like it would be worth it to me personally to have to deal with the religion routine ever again. But if you feel strongly about her, perhaps a few hours a week sitting through some Jesus pep rally might be a price that you're willing to pay and are ok with that.
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  Latest Watchtower Micromanagement

  by metatron in

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  i noticed that the koolaid/study issue of the watchtower now contains directed scripture citations in bold letters, such as:.

  "read 1 corinthians 5:2".

  i suppose this is consistent with all the other trends in watchtower-land, especially with their new brochure for the illiterate and mentally challenged, "listen to god".

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  i_drank_the_wine

  It's the ever tightening noose of control. The JW's have been trained to respond to simple 1-2 word commands, and this just reinforces the hold. Read Obadiah 3:7. Do service. Attend meeting. Don't masturbate. Give comment. No college. Donate money. Die quietly.
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  Awake:

  by metatron in

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  i_drank_the_wine

  Haha those assholes wouldn't know the first thing about trying to stay afloat in this current world. They've lived behind tall white walls for years whilst enjoying their cult celebrity status.
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  Are they going to keep lowering the bar to be appointed an MS or Elder???

  by karter in

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  my mother told me of 2 young guys that have been appointed elders.. i could'nt belive it these guys have zero life experance and both their wifes walked out on them after a few years of marrage.. another one cooked his brain on drugs and his talks are painfull to listen to....all over the place and stumbles through them.. .

  is it due to alot of young ones (60 to 70%) leaving and the pool to pick from is getting smaller so lowering the bar is the only way???

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  i_drank_the_wine

  They've lowered the bar like crazy. People that got into more trouble than I did growing up get made ministerial servants in their early 20's.

  One guy I used to be sort-of-friends with (that had been DF'd and cheated on his wife an additional time) started partaking at the memorial a couple years ago, in his early 30's.