If it was alphabet soup, maybe there is a "message" in the soup, using the letters. Stir the giant pot of soup around, and see where the letters land, kinda like a magic 8 ball, lol.
Dunedain
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Should I be mad?
by kairos ini've been df'd for about six weeks now.no one has broken the obligation to "honor the disfellowshipping decree".that's the way notorious co paul kohler describes the "loving arrangement" that is jw shunning.
( just "serving" napa ).
so, my wife's family has been "loving me" ( barf ) when out of nowhere, one of them sends home homemade soup for me.... well, i got super pissed.
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What's the most times you've seen a person disfellowshipped and return?
by Billzfan23 inhow many people have seen a person leave and return multiple times?
out of curiosity, what was the number?
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Dunedain
4, and the dude could have ALMOST been DF'd, AFTER he died too, and for a 5th time, lol. He was one of those characters who was "in" and "out", all the time. When you saw him at an assembly, he wasnt in my congregation, or when visiting his cong, you never knew if he was DF'D or not, lol.
Anyway, at his funeral a brother gave a talk, and some other brothers and sister came up and said a few words about him. After most of the people spoke, another woman came up to talk about him. Nobody there, recognized her, or knew who she even was, but she requested to go up and speak, and they allowed her.
WELL, she proceeded to say, "Hi i am, So and so's FIANCE, we have been dating for a few years, and were soon to be married. I love him, and he was such a kind man bla bla bla bla bla . . . .".
Everybody at the funeral, who were mostly ALL JW's, looked at each other and "shrugged" their shoulders like, who and what was that. Well she WAS his fiance, that NOBODY knew about, and she was a "WORLDLY" woman, who had NOTHING to do with the "truth", lol, freaking PRICELESS.
After that, my Father and I would often say, " Only so and so, could be the ONLY brother to be Disfellowshipped AFTER he DIED", lol. You cant make this shit up, lol.
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INSPIRED ERROR: new phrase among JW CO
by wannaexit inthere is no end to their madness.
the co gave a talk on inspired error.
i have never heard of it.
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Dunedain
The 2 and 3rd points, is nothing new. They've been pushing that BS, for years, and like others have said, it is just more mind control tools.
The number 1 point, is, i think a way for them to try doing "damage control", in advance, knowing that the "news and media", very soon are gonna be filled with more child abuse scandals, the Australian royal comm, and many other things that are going to "rock" the foundations of the WTS. They are trying to "prepare" the flock for the "lies" they may soon read. So, just bury your heads in the sand, dont read the news, watch the news, or use the internet, and do not mind the man behind the curtain.
Its sooo insulting to our intelligence.
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oh dear....
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhhs5lhr00.
words.....just cant find the words......
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Dunedain
It should be "why you gotta be so WRONG", about 1877, and 1895, and 1914, and 1975, and what a generation is, and how to treat children, and about your past, and they way you judge and treat people. -
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So sick of the abuse...
by iwasblind ini am still serving as an elder but just hanging in there.
i think their quandry is that they don't see me out in the field, but when they need encouragement and decent prayer they come to me.. i just got off the phone to this poor sister who i have only met twice.
she is not even in my congregation (her sister is).
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Dunedain
This is the kind of Elder my father was. Unfortunately, he was berated for it, and was no longer "fit" to be an Elder, because he refused to go along with the unloving treatment of the flock. He is still there, and is known as a "rebel" by the Elders, but yet is STILL approched by MANY, who want TRUE encouragement, and to talk "freely" without fear of being "labeled" because of their questioning things.
I have to say though, at almost 70 years old, and "hanging on" barely for so many years, with now the even more crazy bullshit from the WTS, he is kinda done. I dont blame him either. I like that he is still there, cause i sometimes need somebody on the inside, but he is almost out.
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The six newest Kingdom Songs are all about preaching
by Splash in140. the life of a pioneer141.
searching for friends of peace142.
preaching to all sorts of people143.
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Dunedain
I havnt really been to a meeting in like 20 years, so i havnt heard any of the newer songs since then. All i know is, i HATED the songs back then, they were horrible. There was maybe, like 2 or 3 decent ones, out of like a hundred. I can only imagine the shit they are shoveling now, and i bet the sheeple all act like they are the "greatest" songs they ever heard. Meanwhile, their ears are bleeding, fricken joke. -
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oh dear....
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bhhs5lhr00.
words.....just cant find the words......
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Dunedain
@ - Divergent - While i would like to agree with ya, but i am not sure it is meant to be satirical. I think the fact that the books, and literature, were legitimate WTS shit, i am thinking "real" JW's made this. Another reason, i was checking each householder's "look", to see if any looked "worldly" in any way, and other than a few "props" like sunglasses and clothing, none had tattoos, body pircings, long haired dudes, or any other "worldly" looks. So, i am thinking that ALL the idiots in this video are JW's.
You know, in the past, this kind of stuff would have been looked "down" upon , by the Elders, and CO's. However, nowadays, with the organization becoming so "media" focused, with jw.org, and cartoons, and videos, and all the "media" the WTS is using themselves, how can they tell their R&F not to do it themselves. I think it may be one aspect of using certain media, that they DIDN'T count on. Now they have a bunch of their members, putting up videos, and blogs, and all types of avenues, that are probably BACKFIRING, and giving a "bad witness". Again, how can they enforce this, and it would be very hypocritical for them to say "WE" can, but "YOU" cant. Idk, just a thought.
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"New Heavens & New Earth" (Why The Need For New Heavens?)
by NoMoreHustle ini have been thinking about this phrase lately "new heavens & new earth".
the new earth piece i guess i can see that one...... (still not really sure about that one) .
but why the need for "new heavens"?
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Dunedain
Just playing Devils advocate here, but does it maybe? have to do with once the 144,000 get up there in heaven? Once they are all up there, or, are almost up there, could that have to do with it, THEN being a new heaven?
Maybe thats the WTS's "take" on it? Perhaps someone, who is more informed about it, can let us know. This is definetely an interesting point, and other than the 144,000 crap, what WOULD be the reason for a new heavens?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
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How was it when you were a JW as a kid?
by nevaagain inwhats worse than being an adult jw?
when i was a kid i always had a bad concience all the time.
i believed i would not survive armageddon for the fact that i didn't like going to service and i didnt like going to the meetings.
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Dunedain
One of my good friends growing up, and still is till this day, would fall asleep during EVERY meeting, lol. Both of our families were in the "truth", and i was born in, and his family got in when he was like 5 years old. So, we were both young in the truth, together. He was never baptized, and never "excelled" in the "truth", but my dumbass was baptized at like 13, or some stupid age like that.
Anyway, i just wanted to share this stupid/funny story about my friend and his younger brother. Whenever they got to the Kingdom Hall, they were always wide awake, jumping around, hanging out with all us kids, before the meetings started. As soon as the opening songs last note was sung, my friend and his younger brother, would be OUT LIKE LIGHTS, lol. I mean sleeping, solid, out cold, lol. It didnt matter if they were in the front row, or back row, they were drooling and snoring, lol. Their mother never gave a shit, but their father would TRY to wake em up, but being that they were 2 of 7 kids, most of the time they werent woken up.
Then, as soon as the final songs lastnote was sung, and then the prayer, BAM!!!!!, they were WIDE AWAKE! Lol, up and talking, and running around, wide eyed, and not skipping a beat. Of course, growing up, especially since my Dad was an Elder, they were looked at as not being spiritually strong. It didnt matter to me, and 30 years later, i am still great friends with them.
This wasnt a story about my childhood, and the feelings i felt growing up, and all that, which i have much to say, but i just wanted to share a funny story about my friend and growing up in the Kingdom Hall, lol.
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Young JW's with crazy abusive parents: You are not alone. Here's a crazy story from my past.
by cappytan infirst off, if you are in an abusive household and don't have the means to leave, you need to get help immediately.
contact the police.
they have resources to help you, especially if you have proof.
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Dunedain
There are/were so many overly strict JW parents out there. I saw them growing up, and i here and see them now. What they dont realise, is that they are actually pushing their children away. They do it under the guise of "protecting you from the world", or thinking they are being the "best uber JW parents" there are, but the result is usually just the opposite.
They are NOT being loving. They are NOT being respectful, of you as humans, and in the 2 cases above, as adults. They want to "protect" you from the "world", but they are instead just pushing you into the "world". Its really quite unloving, and unchristian behavior. And sometimes its done, just because of how they think they will look in front of their other asshole JW friends. They want to "appear" as though, they are "great" parents, because of how THEY uphold their "strict christian rules". Its bullshit.