Posts by XBEHERE

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Thoughts on The KM Blood insert

by The Lone Ranger in

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hello people, i live in australia so maybe this is old news to you guys who live in the usa, but in the australian nov km its has an insert regarding blood, maybe you usa guys got it on oct, but it seems to me that they are watering down the blood issue,.

for the first time they are letting the reader ask themselves the question about how their conscience would feel regarding taking blood, this has never being the case before, theyve always said a christian would not do thisa christian would not do that.

im sure you guys have read the insert, any views????

XBEHERE

Since I am still a JW I had the misfortune of attending the meeting where this was discussed.... and it was so stupid.

"there are some cell salvage machines that are primed with whole blood" "some dialysis machines actually pause for a second or 2 before diverting blood back into your body so maybe that pause is too long for your conscience"

And there were many, MANY more stupid comments such as that. Why cant anybody see thru this... counting how long a pause is for pete's sake! The speaker also made sure to comment that we still can't donate blood. So how can we be using the medicine made from it if we dont contribute to it???! Makes no sense.

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Faders: Would you prefer attention from the elders or not?

by ringo5 in

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this question may produce some flaming, but so be it.

i've noticed many are freaked out, annoyed, worried, or simply felt harrassed when faced with the prospect of a visit from the elders when trying to fade.

others, or at times the same ones, complain that they recieved no inquiry from them at all or very little.

XBEHERE

Elders will not visit "apostates". Also in the case of Mulan ,her husband used to be an elder and I have noticed that they too also get ignored for some reason which I am hoping that they do with me once I get the guts to leave this sorry ass religion for good.

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Calling all elders and former elders (need advice)

by nonamegiven in

wow, i'm asking elders for advice, how strange.

anyway if you want to know my history and where i am look at my first 1/2 dozen or so posts, it'll bring you up to speed.

here's where i need advice.

XBEHERE

All good tactics listed above... I vote to go with depression since its true as an elder I never wanted to deal with that since we aren't trained professionally to give advice to depressed individuals. A depressed person will get sympathy from the elder body instead of disdain.

As for how long it will take to get reinstated it really depends on that particular committee and honestly how they feel about you. Were you a difficult person, did you ever "challenge" them or dispute with them since they will call all of this into account even though it has little to do with your case.

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As an Elder I believe JW's have the Truth

by JWFreak in

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i also believe in santa clause and that david beckham has a phd.

seriously though, i have only been here a short while but it has been more than enough to convince me to hand in my resignation.

i have telephoned our sec, and told him that i am stepping down.

XBEHERE

Congratulations and welcome!

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Did You Think Elders Should've Been Able To Be "Elders For Life"?

by minimus in

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some of the stupidest witnesses are elders.

i've known more than a few that were basically "nice guys" but as dumb as a stump!

some never knew when to keep quiet and the other elders always had to cover for them.

XBEHERE

Minimus,

You right and the worst critical thinkers are MS elder wannabe's and their wives and regular pioneers. I am sure I have been "brought up" and I dont give a sh*t... I want out!

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The Power of the Watchtower Society's literature

by The wanderer in

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the power of the watchtower society's literature a few days ago an individual on this board was contemplating.

going back to the kingdom hall.

details other than the thought was there.

XBEHERE

If you are an individual that still attends meetings, how
do you keep yourself insulated from the Watchtower's
propaganda?

I day dream during the talks and WT study ,and dont comment besides the occasional "Jesus was a fine example that all christians should strive to imitate". When out in service I pretend to ring the doorbell and never do RV's on anyone. I dont allow my mind to get sucked in and quite frankly its like watching a bad movie every week... just sit thru it and thats it.

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Did You Think Elders Should've Been Able To Be "Elders For Life"?

by minimus in

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friends

some of the stupidest witnesses are elders.

i've known more than a few that were basically "nice guys" but as dumb as a stump!

some never knew when to keep quiet and the other elders always had to cover for them.

XBEHERE

Elders are a mixed bag some are idiots and some genuinely try to help. I agree that they should be reviewed from time to time since I know many strive to get there then just slack off.

I am slacking off right now though still an elder. I've been missing meetings left and right, dont comment much anymore, seldom show up for service. This has been going on for months and finally, recently another elder approached me and said hey your attendance seems to be improving (it isn't but I guess he had to start conversation somehow) and said that nobody really has noticed me missing so many meetings so just intergrate back in and you'll be good again......

Elders

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They do actually place more than 50 of those tracts per publisher... :(

by Kudra in

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too bad- some folks here did a calculation and said that evin if all dubs placed all their tracts they'd only cover 300 million of the earth's inhabitants (mainly in western lands where people toss them straight in the garbage), thus only reaching a maximum of 4 1/2 % of the earth's population... .

i think many publishers, inflamed with zeal, get packet after packet of 50 tracts each for "placement in the ministry".

(eeeee- i love using those buzzwords!

XBEHERE

In my congregation the elders told everyone to leave the tracts discretely at not-at-homes so some people are placing hundreds of them. Its easy service, you go to the door knock, leave them the tract and move on. I think this campaign is more to get people who hate service out than anything else.

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New Tracts fill Recycling bins

by Lilycurly in

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i thought the jws would never visit my appartement bloc...but they finally did.. i came home yesterday night to find one of the new tract folded a few times and inside my mailbox.

i was really excited of course, but a bit dissapointed that i wasn't there to get it directly from them.

i looked around the other boxes, and it seems like the dubs just left one to everyone without even trying to knock.

XBEHERE

This stupid campaign is a complete waste of time. The way we were told to just leave it at the door even if nobody comes and count that house as "worked" on the territory is a complete lie. Its just a way for a lot of congregations who have unworked territory to claim that they are done now. And do they really expect people to read that garbage after finding it under their doormat? I havent even read it myself yet.

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Who is DF/DA or Fader???

by mama1119 in

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i was just wondering, how many dfed to we have on here compared to da or faders??

?

XBEHERE

Long term fader...mentally I am about JW as Marilyn Manson though.