irrelevant to most except for those who have family or friends involved in it. then it becomes all consuming.
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Are JW'S "hated" in all the world? Or...are they considered IRRELEVANT?
by Terry inwathctower 90/1/1 p. 12 par.
8 not ashamed of the good news .
while it is true that jehovahs witnesses are hated and opposed in all the nations of the earth, this is in fulfillment of what was foretold to be an identifying mark of genuine worshipers of the one living and true god.
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Your earliest doubt?
by Apognophos inthis might be an unfair question for those who have been out of the organization for decades, but i'm wondering if any of you remember your earliest doubt -- maybe something odd that occurred to you as a kid (if you were a jw then).
please try to limit to two doubts at the most :-).
i think my first "doubt" was simply realizing that at the time of the flood, every animal that wasn't in the ark died (well, besides the fish, supposedly).
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Mine started when I was a child and realised that according to the book of bible stories sodom was destroyed because of all the sodomy but having sex with your dad is cool.
lol. that is so true, not only incest but getting your father drunk so you can climb on his erect penis.... yikes. Why on earth would that be even included in the bible.
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How many exBethelites?
by Christ Alone ini'd just like to see who here has served at bethel, including myself.
this may be useful for those that have specific questions about bethel, but don't know who of us actually served there.
could we hear from those that served at bethel and where you served?
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What is up with the influx of electronic readers at the Kingdom Hall
by wannabefree incrazy!.
the local publishers seem to be jumping on the e-reader bandwagon.. sisters even in their 70's are showing up at the hall with ipads loaded with publications for the meetings for crying out loud!.
a couple of these elderly sisters are having me get theirs ready ... should i add coc and captives of a concept ... perhaps studies vol vii ... to the library for them.
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I do it for convenience and to go online at the meetings using my 4G LTE enabled 3rd Gen iPad. Seriously though its the only thing I enjoy about going to the meetings these days and it is very convenient. I see no problem with it, in fact its a trend worldwide. Many magazines are switching to e-format only.
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Have You Changed Since Getting On To This Site?
by minimus inare you the same poster/person now?
i have seen many posters mature here.
some still act like jws but others have shown recovery and progress from the witness mentality..
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Well I came here in 2002, didn't post much, began all my researching then in 2008 took a few years break. Came back and it was now .net not .com and all my posts were here and account was still active so began reading and sometimes posting again.
I think the passed couple years being back has made me more cynical and bitter. Perhaps a little jealous that I do not have the guts that many of you did to just say fcuk it and quit cold turkey. I have changed, but not necessarily for the better.
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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"Someone is irregular if they miss reporting for a month"
Again true, however the CO will often send the group overseers of these individuals out to "make sure" that they didn't have any time to report. In fact he will say... "I am sure they may have talked to someone. Just ask to be sure" I am comparing procedure to what actually happens. I am sure your husband dutifully notes down who is irr and who is inact. like I used to when I was secretary eon's ago but the corporate inspectors send the elders out to make sure again anyway. So dumb!
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Let me get this straight about the FDS latest thinking
by wha happened? inso the fds does not include the apostles.
what part of the gospels aren't food at the proper time?
or am i just mixed up on who the fds are..
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Hmm I never even thought about that one. So if there was no F&DS in the first century to dispense food at the proper time what about the writing of the New Testament? I would think that they would consider that "proper food" right... So if there was no FDS, no GB, until 1919 then Jehovah worked through individual annointed ones to write the bible? Begs the question then does he still do so today? How would they (F&DS) answer this one?
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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What Blondie said is true, however my comments on turning in time just when CO visits is often the reality of the situation. The elders almost never label someone as irregular until the CO sends them out on a time hunt while he is there. What usually happens is those publishers will all of a sudden come up with some time to report.. lol its laughable really. Such a stupid system they have for reporting our time (spirituality). Like I said, pathetic.
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Are irregular publishers included in the congregation average?
by hoser inany congregation secretary or former.
if a person does not report for the month and is zero hours is this zero included when the average is calculated?.
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Lying on a field service report is stupid. Do you think you're fooling Jehovah?
This is true. However the men in authority do look at the figures and your treatment by them is largely based on the amount of time you put in to work for your salvation. The whole concept of tracking individual time on "publishers record cards" is unscriptural.
I understand the whole "...need to be organized, encouraging to hear the progress from distant fields, etc.." but they can still do all that with the publishers handing in reports anonymously. The secretary hands in totals anyway not individual reports. Lets be honest, isn't the purpose of handing in reports really for the elders and CO's to look at and base your spirituality on.
How many times in elders meetings I have heard discussions about brothers and inevitably one of the elders says "what has his activity been like lately" How unchristian to base someone's value soley on participation in a man made organizations interpretation of how Jesus' ministry should be carried out.
...how pathetic really.