Posts by XBEHERE

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Hello - mentally out, physically in...

by Bluefluff in

i have been lurking for a while but was encouraged to sign up by a user on the ex jw reddit forum.

i'm a still in jw but i've been mentally out for about two months.

i'm an ms and i'm also gay so i have two lots of 'coming out' to do very soon!.

JWs no longer taking the Governing Body seriously.

by kneehighmiah in

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the recent letter being us to come to detroit shows that jws are beginning not to take the gb seriously anymore.

the buzz following the meeting was that the letter was unprecedented in its tone.

this coming from long time jws of 30 years plus.

I agree with this thread and the comments to a degree. However, there will always been zealots who will never question their precious, human, leaders. The average rank and file JW is growing apathetic though and it shows in the drying up donations, lack of commenting at meetings, lack of attendance in general, lessening of respect for elders, CO's, etc.

I am convinced that many JWs are in a similar if not identical situation as I am....living a lie for the sake of family.

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CO's & DO's age 70+ to be laid off on 9/1/14

by williamhconley in

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in a private conversation with a c.o.

friend from north carolina, he told me yesterday that they just got a letter that all traveling overseers (do's & co's) age 70 & up are going to be laid off on 09/01/2014.

they will be asssigned to local congregations and further details are pending.. .

XBEHERE

The difficulty for the WTBTS is that there are very few young COs coming up through the ranks

Not here in my area of the U.S. There are "baby" CO Subs popping up everywhere. Many in their early-mid 30's, company men, been pioneering for at least 10+ years, talks on all Assemblies and Regional Conventions, etc. Now it makes sense...they were lining these little kiss-asses up to take the place of these retired CO's.

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"Higher Education" Follow Up

by XBEHERE in

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this is a follow up to my previous thread.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/268693/1/they-are-definitely-attacking-higher-education.

so we had our co visit and we were quizzed about the "problem" of higher education as well.

XBEHERE

This is a follow up to my previous thread

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/268693/1/They-are-Definitely-Attacking-Higher-Education

So we had our CO Visit and we were quizzed about the "problem" of higher education as well. Not the exact wording or questions that my friend had a couple months ago but same thought.

Pretty much Higher Education is always bad. Higher Education is defined by the F&DS as 4 years of a university with the view towards getting a specific degree. In other words if they do not pioneer and go to a 4year university then they and their parents are spiritually weak and need to be spoken too.

Do they lack faith in Jah's promises? Are they putting their trust in Satan's system? If the father is an appointed man then we were told as per the Letter to BOE March 6, 2012 to evaluate the situation and see if he still qualifies.

It was quite unnerving and really lacked any logical reasoning. Higher Education will always = falling away from the "truth" period! He said as spiritual shepherds we need to be aware if any of our little lamb's () stray from the flock and get snatched by Satan's influence.....a big one he uses is higher education. He went on and on but I won't disgust you with the details.

I am not sure if this is an across the board type situation or regional based on BOE reports but my friend and I live in different parts of the U.S. and it was the same ideas. So they are definitely on the hunt for poor JW's trying to educate themselves and getting a life.

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I think my D.O. Is a closet apostate. References Stanford Prison Study and hints he sometimes disagrees with the Branch

by kneehighmiah in

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i find it odd that the district overseer today made.

1. zero yes 0 references to the fds in any of his talks.. 2.he also told elders that the brothers worship god and not them.so therefore the elders have no authority to order the friends around.. 3. he also talked about the stanford prison study and said that people who receive authority over others often abuse it.

4. he mentioned that when he disagrees with the branch (aka the fds) he's learned to just do what they say.

XBEHERE

Its only a matter of time before a zealous CO or wannabe CO turns his ass in. This org rewards "snitching" behavior. This DO sounds like an awesome guy but he'd better watch his ass very carefully if he wants to remain in his free room and board job for much longer.

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On a Scale of 1 to 10---How Devoted Were You To Being One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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as i grew up in the religion, i was a 10. i wanted to be made a "servant" because that was instilled in me from infancy.

i diligently studied ever piece of watchtower literature and defended my religion intensely.. when i got into my 30's, i started to see little cracks in the watchtower's surface but decided to "wait on jehovah".

then i started to research a little more critically and realized i couldn't defend the prophecies, the treatment of people and the hypocrisy that was becoming more obvious, that especially an elder can see.. it was a gradual thing---from a 10 to a zero!.

XBEHERE

Sliding scale for me.

24 yrs ago= 10+

from 1996-2002= 8

2002=4

2008=6 (I bounced back a little and didn't view this site for a little while

2010-Present=varies between 1 and 2. This is because I am still technically in so I count going through the motions i.e. meetings, fake service, giving some parts as a 1-2.

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My Former Congregation is Dead

by Nosferatu in

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when i left the jw organization, there were about 80 publishers in my congregation.

within the last month, the congregation was abolished because it only had 29 publishers in it.

the apparent reason for this was one elder on a power trip.

XBEHERE

What else? Make him a CO

lol... true, true. Provided that he is firmly planted up the current CO's lower intestines first.

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BOE Letter: New Adjustments

by pixel in

**this was predicted from some members here**.

to all congregations .

re: adjustments in organizational terminology and assembly arrangements .

XBEHERE

I would've been excited if the Regional Convention's were reduced to 2 days. That would've been a good change

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Why JWs would commit murder if ordered to by the GB

by kneehighmiah in

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psychology class is teaching me so much.

it's a core class, as i want to study medicine or biochemistry eventually.

we were assigned to read about obedience.

XBEHERE

I really don't think the majority of JW's would do it if ordered. Perhaps the Witnesses of the 1960's, or 70's...maybe 80's. Now, no way. Things are different these days, I can sense it when speaking to people.

I really believe many JWs are just going through the motions most of the time and they are hoping that the GB is right about things. Deep down they could care less. The kingdom is far away for all but the most hard-core JWs these days. That being said, I am sure that there are also wacko's that would kill if so ordered by the 8 cylon's at HQ.

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What do DO's do when not visiting assemblies?

by Richard_I in

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let's say they attend a dozen circuit assemblies.

that's only 12 weeks they spend with a congregation.

what about the rest of the year?

XBEHERE

They police the CO's and elder bodies within a district. I know this because a friend of mine was on a body several years back and he told me that they had numerous problems...internal fighting, backbiting, slandering, you know the usual elder stuff but this one got out of hand.

The CO tried to deal with it without success so letters were written back and forth to the WTS he said and the end result was the entire body, along with the CO would go before the DO. He said people were removed, some moved, other elders were sent in. Apparently this type of stuff happens more than publishers realize.