who's game?.
the governing body is so old their idea of cybersex is tapping out "who's your daddy?
" in morse code..
They are so old, they're grandparents are long deceased.
Too much?
They are so old, they have cobwebs in their brains, and they publish it.
Too true?
Um, they are so old, they are staring death in the face. Not because of age, but because of unscriptural inhumane policies and teachings, and the refusal to acknowlege their mistakes and at least TRY to show genuine repentance, they kind they demand if you sipped a lil too much big boy juice.
......Sorry, i have nothing.
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so we had a conversation with my in-laws last night that thoroughly ticked me off and this is the only place that i can vent about it, so here goes!.
I am in this situation as we speak. I'm making dumb mistakes. I wholeheartedly second Sinis' words:
If I were you, I would just cut them off at the knees and when they bring these issues up, just say you do not want to talk about it. Offer nothing else, no explanation, nothing. Stop doing token service and just give it up. You are doing no good to your family or sanity by walking the fence. Just let it go. If they insist on wanting to know why you don't go to meetings, or offer any "sheparding" help. refuse. If you are caught in a situation where you cannot escape, simply say you do not want to talk about it, and hold your grounf with that simple phrase. No one needs to know anything above and beyond that.
i have no idea if any of them do--or grand children for that matter?.
Anthony Morris has two sons - Paul and Jesse. Jesse is in Brooklyn Bethel and works on the Branch desk.
Guy Pierce has a son, from his previous wife I believe.
if jehovah created the universe, knows it all, et cetera, and then he has a direct line to the governing body, how come you're always told to "wait on jehovah"?
can a simple earthling be faster in his or her reasoning than yhwh?
can s/he notice something jehovah will miss?.
Jesus didn't wait for Jehovah to turn the tables over, nor show the Pharisees and scribes they were wrong. Jesus seen things wrong and acted. I agree with truth_b_known.
when you were an active jw, and was approached by a question there was no answer for, how did you respond?
defending beliefs we felt had to be true but no real answer society never addresses.
how ridiculous were (y)our responses?.
When you were an active JW, and was approached by a question there was no answer for, how did you respond? Defending beliefs we felt had to be true but no real answer society never addresses. How ridiculous were (y)our responses?
For example:
Him: Why is oral sex wrong among married people?
Me: It's not what the organs were created for.
(Circular convo....)
Him: Ok but why does it matter what a married couple does in their private time?
Me: God sees everything.
Him: Why is it wrong in the eyes of your God?
Me: Its like using a cutting knife to kill someone instead of cutting meat.
LOL! I can't believe he wasn't humble enough to accept the truth (sarcasm).
Anonymous: As a person believing solidly in creation, I still enjoy studying science very much. I 've never felt it was sufficient to stop learning simply because God is the answer. But I do feel science explains, not defines.
I agree with the notion that they can and do coexist. Bible has been marred and changed through time, and as advanced as science is, there is still a lot to learn. So they cant be looked at exclusively. Upon each new discovery, there is 100 more questions asked, and upon each one being answered, more questions.
Relying on science isn't the best because of that reason, and humans are still very limited. Thousands of new species are discovered daily, and things the most scientific and brightest minds agree on will be refuted with more advancement in science in the future.
Science can't explain feelings, such as a mother's love which is what even animals posess. Science can't explain how does life start, which is why we have to settle for IBM's Watson despite the fact that satelittes outside the earth can read your newspaper along with you is old news. How else can it be explained?
Excellent comments! Thanks all....going from athiest to megachurch is shady. just my opinion. $$$
it's nice to have you here !
i found that this board was very supportive when i first got on it over 4 years ago .
i still find it supportive !
I read things from this site years before I was out, and I would do research in the publications to give me apostate ammunition. I had a very close friend become apostate. And I would refute his ideas and feel stronger and stronger about my stance. Then after I noticed serious problems, I checked this out earlier this year and was like WOW. So it's not just me.
And that "never say anything negative about the society" was seen right through at first glance. I dont agree with some posts, but truth always prevail. Whether i want it to be true or not.
What REALLY stuck out to me was a very old thread about 10 years ago, stating Jehovah's organization was responsible for killings prophets, built a golden calf, killing Jesus, and listed many other atrocities FROM THE BIBLE. That helped me to the men in Brooklyn in perspective, NOT INFALLIBLE. once that foundation is tore down, it makes it all so much easier. I gotta find that thread....
Ding - Anyone on JWN or whom we've personally known... But I would like to lookup those names you've listed.
If so, how'd that happen?
