i should know the answer to this but my memory is failing big time.
our friend just called who is still in the cult.
he's been away from it for about five months now.
An annulment is not going to get you considered "scripturally free".
If you had sex with her - your stuck.
If she fooled around and that's why you got the annulment, she would have to confess, then the marriage would be dissolved in a way to make you "scripturally free"
If you screwed around and she didn't, then she could divorce you and both be free but you would probably be DFed for Fing around.
There are NOT enough details to make a call here.
i should know the answer to this but my memory is failing big time.
our friend just called who is still in the cult.
he's been away from it for about five months now.
20 years as an elder, with many cases like this in mine and other halls.
NO ONE WAS EVER DFed for Marriage outside the religion.
This is NOT a DFing reason unless they are not free to marry.
tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?
well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).
here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.
pimojw - don't feel sorry for them.
This is NOT an instrument to make better speakers of the many elders who can barely put a correct sentence together.
This is the next step in REDUCING the speaking and teaching role of elders that started when the Book Study was taken out of homes. Since then, less and less is asked of elders when it comes to public speaking.
It is a bait and switch, much like "we are eliminating the RBC because we need SO MANY new KHs"
i've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
Why would any girl want to be involved with someone who will go to heaven... you know next Tuesday?
not sure if this question has been asked before but thought it would be interesting to read peoples response..
I would not have made intelligent creatures as weak frail and as transient as mankind.
do any of the current governing body have academic qualifications?.
thanks.
paul.
They have been qualified by GOD!
When you tell people that - reason leaves the conversation.
what do you consider sinful?
okay, i know many of you no longer believe that there is a god.
just bear with me a little, just assumed that there is a creator or god.
Doing things that hurt other people.
so after three years of fading, my elder father has never really asked why we have chosen to stop attending.. today, after a mixed discussion, he starts talking about the "solution to all the world problems" and says "i don't know what you now believe, but i believe gods kingdom will fix everything" i let the comment go, and didn't respond.. then he goes on about the video "remember the wife of lot" because he just came from the convention last weekend.
"don't get caught up in this system...blah blah".
i couldn't help myself, and said one thing "dad, that video failed to show the next chapter of that account.
He Stucky - I know it's hard, have some pity though - his WHOLE life and future are based on the lies.
What is left when that is taken away especially when you are older and have made so many sacrifices?
It is very hard to let go. It is frightening.
i was told this during my judicial committee (some five years ago) when i brought up concerns i had with the "truth.
" in addition one of the elders (who was an engineer) said once you've accepted a proof of pythagorus' theorem you don't later start doubting that theorem.
i thought that argument was a weak analogy then.
THE WORST D.O. I have ever seen (and his horrible insulting wife also) gave a talk at an assembly and made a GIANT point about how "YOU CAN'T DISPROVE THE TRUTH"
All I thought about (besides wanting to punch him) was hmmm bet you can't Disprove Leperchauns or Sasquatch or the Loch Ness Monster.
Because if his talks and his wife's LONG interview where she counseled everyone, patted her self on the back often, and said Stephen Hawkings is stupid - it was the WORST ever!
fourty years ago nasa sent two probes that were to go on a mission ,voyager 1 and voyager 2 in two trajectories through our solar system getting what information they could from the planets they passed close by.. 40 years later they surpassed all expectations and are still sending signals back to earth.. voyager 1 has actually gone into what is termed interstellar space that is it has exited our solar system free from the constraints of our own sun having travelled some 13 billion miles from earth.
voyager 2 which was on a different trajectory will soon itself leave our solar system and go into interstella space having travelled some 11 billion miles from earth so far.. both of these satellites/probes carry messages from the world of humans / governments to whoever might find it (alien life forms ) if they exist and find these probes.. my attention is drawn to the bible account of the tower of babel which really couldn`t have been that high seriously.and yet jehovah god felt threatened by what man could achieve if they had one universal language ?.
what must he be thinking now i wonder ?.
Mans greatest achievement if you ask me.
