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  Why start preaching work in 1876? Something to ask JW's who are still in

  by fedup in

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  we learn from the bible that the characters that preached doomsday messages, such as lot, noah, etc all got to see the result of the message they preached, we studied that the final judgement from god was seen by the preacher as well as the people that heard and ignored the message.

  my point is this, it would have been ridiculous for noah to start preaching to people, put the fear of god in all the listeners that the flood is coming, build the ark and then as a result, nothing happens to them.

  even if the flood would have happened later, let's say 50 years after noah and all the people that heard him have died from natural causes.

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  Excellent point! I have been crystallizing the same thought linked with the unimportance of 1914 for while now.
  But you have the gist of my idea.
  
  To the point - with that reasoning - why didnt the preaching work start 200 years or 1000 years ago - or never stop after Jesus?

  The last day of 1914 just doesn't make sense on that level, and the Overlapping Generations does not fix it.

  Lets never mind that world conditions have dramatically been improving since jesus day, so the bible prophecy is BS as is the catalog of Nostradamus:)

  www.ourworldindata.com
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

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  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  TTWSYF - Yes "oh the pain, the pain" is Dr Smith!
  I thought he was referencing when Spock had to mind meld with the Horta.

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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  "Oh, The Pain", (Spock on a Star Trek episode).

  Devil in the Dark - one of my favorites!!!!

  
  
  
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  How Will Armageddon Begin?

  by Cold Steel in

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  and how long will it last?

  and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?

  the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.

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  This is the way the world ends
  This is the way the world ends
  This is the way the world ends
  Not with a bang but a whimper.

  T.S. Eliot
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  Magnum - it really sucks doesn't it.

  One of the great ironies for me - is that I was surrounded in the last few years I still attended with a number of "pioneers and Elders" who were Ultra Righteous. The funny part was that - besides being hypocrites in a number of ways - they decided to make their Spiritual Sacrifice AFTER they spent the bulk of their lives doing whatever the heck they wanted.

  They built careers and made their money. They didnt pioneer - they missed meetings - did what they wanted elsewise - but then when it became very convenient for them (for one reason or another) they decided to be all for the great Dog Jah.

  And as elder - I had to put up with their hypocrisy, trashing others for "not being spiritual enough" for "putting work or family first" and a bunch of other things they all did for decades, while I was doing everything I was suposed to do - sacrificing my life and time - and any kind of financial security for the future for myself and family.
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  More similarities with North Korea

  by neat blue dog in

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  other posts have mentioned the similarities between jws and n. korea with regards to uniformity of dress and grooming, backlash for criticism and being hard to escape.

  just thought i'd add a couple more, thanks to quotes from david mikkelson and john delury, a n. korea analyst at yonsei university in seoul, s. korea:.

  north korea is notorious for a lack of transparency.

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  Like God - Kim Jong Il loved porn.
  God gets to watch all sex acts all the time!
  You can't escape his roving eyes:)
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  Any reason in particular someone gave me a Dislike?
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  Yes I did - and I am still having a very hard time adjusting to the idea that in the not very far future I will blink out of existence.

  Being cheated out of decades of a life of my choice doing things I would have enjoyed, making a contribution to humanity, is a hard pill to swallow.
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  Updates to Public Talk Outlines 2 & 3

  by wifibandit in

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  will you be a survivor of the last days?.

  serving with jehovah’s unified organization.

  move ahead with jehovah’s unified organization.

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  ttdtt

  First line.

  THE WORLD IS INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE AND ANGRY (3 min.)

  Seems like REAL WORLD DATA would say that was total BS.
  
  Also - how does the org quantify world anger? Did they do an global exhaustive study.
  
  Silly me - well they did get this rock solid pice of info quoted in the WT mentioned in the outline.
  Referring to the violence engendered by cruelty, Noemí Díaz Marroquín, who teaches at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, says: “Violence is learned, it’s cultural . . . We learn how to act out in violent ways when our environment allows and encourages it.”
  

  Guess thats good enough for me:)
  
  https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace-after-1945

  Website above is the best for disproving "the time of the end"

  
  
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  What novels have you been reading recently? Recommend any?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i've always been a bit of a reader - but only reading about topics i find interesting, e.g.

  natural history, dinosaurs, etc.. recently i've started to select, buy and read novels.. this year i've bought and read frankenstein (mary shelly), dracula (bram stoker), the hound of the baskervilles (a. conan doyle), 'salem's lot (stephen king), jurassic park (michael crichton) and the firm (john grisham).. i have an inclination towards horrors and thrillers.. what fiction have you been reading?.

  could you recommend anything?.

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  Any Stephen King is good.

  The ENDER Series is amazing.

  Battlefield Earth is epic

  Others I have read recently...

  A Universe from Nothing - Krauss
  Origins - Neil DeGrasse Tyson
  How the universe got hte spots - Levin
  Becoming Steve Jobs
  Time of our Lives - Peggy Noonan
  One Year After - sequel to One Second After
  Edge of the Universe
  The Colony
  The Atlantis Gene
  The Troops
  The Deep
  The Martian

  Plus all time greats - good for ex jws
  Fahrenheit 451
  1984
  Brave New World
  Logan's Run