I’m with Simon on this one
dropoffyourkeylee
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PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out
by Newly Enlightened ina pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.
the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.
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Preaching the Good News with Rising Gas Prices?
by truthlover123 ini fear this could put an end to travelling a territory due to rising prices- where i am located in canada, we are now paying $2.08 per liter .
now since there is 3.79 litres in one gallon that equates to $7.88 per gallon... .
how many in a car group will kick in?
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dropoffyourkeylee
Here in the US we have been spoiled for years with relatively low gasoline prices. Unfortunately in conjunction with that is a lack of mass transportation which is way behind anything in Europe. The culture requires everyone to have a car, or in most cases more than one, and drive everywhere. This year in my area (midwest US) gas prices have gone from about $3 to about $5 (which is cheaper than many parts of the country). I'm cutting back a lot on driving. If prices go to anything like $10 a gallon it would be devastating to a lot of people.
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2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.
by Atlantis inmassive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.
found in the casefile in norway.
meant to be secret.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
FYI the case Anderson v Watchtower appears starting on p 459
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dropoffyourkeylee
I don't know the context of this document, but I think it is directed at the literature counter at the KH rather than personal collections. In many KHs there are multiple congregations, several languages, and limited counter space. They are likely trying to slim down the stuff in inventory at the KH to save space and confusion. That's what I am reading into it anyway.
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2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.
by Atlantis inmassive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.
found in the casefile in norway.
meant to be secret.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks Atlantis!
Surely an interesting document. I am curious as to who compiled it. It seems to contain some material written by WT, but other material which isn't WT. In either case, it looks authentic.
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Watchtower fined in Belgium
by Vanderhoven7 injehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.
news.
you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.
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dropoffyourkeylee
It sounds like getting the conviction to stick will take having the right case, with firm evidence and all the details of the case just right.
JWs are certainly not the only organization to practice shunning, and each country has different laws and tolerance for such things. I'm not looking for a change in WT policy just yet.
What is most egregious in my opinion is that the WT pressures people to get baptized, some are young children. These ones grow up or have other life changes and decide they no longer believe. They are then disfellowshipped and shunned. It's just a matter of moving on with their lives, yet they are shunned for it. It's a ridiculous policy.
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My personal thoughts on Ray Franz
by Terry inthe death of ray franz hit me harder than i would have thought.. i had to reflect for awhile....alone......and quietly.. .
after all, fine people die every day and some of them are indispensable, yet, we go on....don't we?.
but, ray franz was something that can only be described in the phrase sui generis (one of a kind).. my task was to ask myself what it was that made ray so singular, potent and admirable without a trace of scandal or ill will attached to his memory.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
A couple of literature changes after and in response to Franz’s exit were:
rewrite of organization book
replace AID book with Insight volumes
release of the big green JW history book
baptism question wording change
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My personal thoughts on Ray Franz
by Terry inthe death of ray franz hit me harder than i would have thought.. i had to reflect for awhile....alone......and quietly.. .
after all, fine people die every day and some of them are indispensable, yet, we go on....don't we?.
but, ray franz was something that can only be described in the phrase sui generis (one of a kind).. my task was to ask myself what it was that made ray so singular, potent and admirable without a trace of scandal or ill will attached to his memory.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
I note that neither of the Carl Olaf Jonsson books with pdf links are available at the previously posted link.
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My personal thoughts on Ray Franz
by Terry inthe death of ray franz hit me harder than i would have thought.. i had to reflect for awhile....alone......and quietly.. .
after all, fine people die every day and some of them are indispensable, yet, we go on....don't we?.
but, ray franz was something that can only be described in the phrase sui generis (one of a kind).. my task was to ask myself what it was that made ray so singular, potent and admirable without a trace of scandal or ill will attached to his memory.. .
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dropoffyourkeylee
I did not realize that Ray's books are available free in PDF format at Raymond Faraz Archives
I also was not aware of this. I do hope that any copyright issues are contemplated with these pdfs being available.
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Which Bible Translation.....
by BoogerMan in....is the best, in your opinion?.
out of the numerous translations i've had/used, i can honestly state that the 2001 translation is head & shoulders above all the others i've ever consulted, imo.
the publishers even invite suggestions/corrections to be submitted.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Galatians 2:20. They have used 'pole' rather than cross or stake