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  Gorbatchev

  by Gorb in

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  the real gorby has died today.

  he was my inspiration for change, with perestroika and glasnost.. that is why i chose the name gorby at jwn.. see the man at the background.

  he was there also.. g..

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Awww
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  What other alternatives for the meaning of Babylon the Great ?

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  i thought the reasoning sound as to the wt explaination of babylon the great, ( world empire of false religion ) but have any of you knowledge of other plausible explainations?

  or knowledge of other sources that are in agreement with wt?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Chime in with sbf, I think the traditional idea was that it was code for Rome. I don’t have my Barnes notes anymore, but I seem to remember that was his stand (1800’s thinking).
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  Conditions of Watchtower Baptism

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

  however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

  your thoughts....

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  I would argue that if the candidate disbelieves the 1914 chronology and the 1919 dates, then he or she would not agree with questions 72 and 73. So the candidate would not qualify for baptism under the JW definition.
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  Dispute resolved over gift shop for Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by was a new boy in

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  background:.

  https://westfaironline.com/105235/partners-fighting-over-gift-shop-for-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  'a jehovah’s witness who partnered with a couple he trusted based on their shared faith is suing them over ownership of a religion-themed gift shop in orange county.. greg holland of victoria, british columbia, claims in a federal lawsuit that thomas and nanci matos of pine bush, coerced him into relinquishing his property.. “through deceit and intimidation, the matoses stole holland’s investment and interest in ministry ideaz llc,” the complaint states.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Eie, I likewise always thought it in poor taste to make money off the brotherhood. Greedy and manipulative if you ask me. Likewise with the organized Bethel tour groups. But in all honesty, other religions are plagued with the same profit mongers, sellers-in-the-temple. I walked into such a place which targeted Catholics recently. I was just little taken aback at the plethora of goods they were selling.
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  Did you know that J.F. Rutherford was part of the Knights of Pythias? There's PROOF for this!

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  wow.

  wow.

  wow.someone just sent me a scan of the boonville advertiser newspaper in which it mentions j.f.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I remember this thread, one thing that struck me was learning that Rutherford admired and campaigned for William Jennings Bryan. Tells you something about Rutherfords penchant for long bombastic speeches, setting up the conventions akin to political party conventions with ‘delegates’, use of sandwich signs, loudspeakers, political maneuvering to get to argue before the Supreme Court, etc.
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  A handy CHRONOLOGY of the life and times of Charles and Maria Russell

  by Terry in

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  1852 charles taze russell was born in(february 16) in pittsburgh, pennsylvania.

  he was raised in a strict presbyterian home.. 1868 (age 16) in an encounter with a non-believer he became disillusioned over the subject of whether god as a heavenly father would burn his children in hell.

  side note: 1869 (joseph franklin rutherford was born and raised a baptist).

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I haven't read all of the posts, but the OP's date of 1881 for the acquisition of the Beecher home at 124 Columbia Heights is, I think, wrong. I think they were still using the Bible House in Allegheny until 1906 or 1907, then bought the Beecher home and moved to Brooklyn. I'm going from memory, so if I am wrong, let someone correct me
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  The Cross & Crown on Watch Tower

  by BoogerMan in

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  can anyone state what year russell & co. first introduced the cross & crown on the cover of the watch tower?.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The old time Bible Students also had a lapel pin of the cross and crown which they liked to wear to conventions, etc. I posit the theory that Rutherford's move to discredit the cross and replace it with the stake was a deliberate move to alienate the Russelite/Bible Students.
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  Local congregation donation and expense report. Very telling

  by nowwhat? in

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  in july the congregation received $2300.00.

  only 40.00 for the worldwide work and zero for ramapo project!!!.

  if this is typical no wonder the org.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Maybe I am mistaken, but I think the 'worldwide work' donation is extra money beyond the monthly stipend the congregation sends to Warwick. The previous 'mortgage payment' has been changed to a 'monthly donation-which-never-ends' and is considered a standard monthly expense for the congregation.
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  1915 Millennial Dawnism!

  by Atlantis in

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  1915 millennial dawnism,the blasphemous religion which teaches,the annihilation of jesus christ, by i. m. haldeman, d.d.

  pastor, first baptist church: broadway and 79th street, new york, n.y..click the link by the blue arrow.,http://www.sendspace.com/file/n9cmir..petra

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I had a copy of this fine publication once upon a time. Haven't seen it in 40 years, so I presume it lost.
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  New Store called Best Life Gifts

  by Franklin30 in

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  i noticed a recent post where it was suggested the store was taken over by hostile means!.

  the person who posted it pretended to have knowledge of why the store changed names but clearly was operating with an agenda!

  one filled with lies, misinformation and deceit!.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I also recall all kinds of ministry-related products you could buy. They would even take WT literature (which you had to send to them) and rebind them in leather, emboss your name on it, etc. Harmless enough, I guess, but I always thought it in poor taste to presume on the brotherhood to make money.