At a recent Circuit assembly in the US Midwest, in the Sunday talk by the C.O. 'Needs of the Circuit', he made some interesting comments. He said that of the 146 pioneers in the circuit, only 3 were under age 20, and only 25 or so were under age 30. He said very few young brothers are reaching out, and that the average age of ministerial servant in the circuit was 49. I was surprised by the figures, and also that he would admit to it in a public talk.
dropoffyourkeylee
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Are the Witnesses Really Losing Their Young People?
by What Now? inthat article about jehovah's witnesses having the lowest retention rate for born ins keeps popping up every now again ... i'm just curious if any of you have noticed that this is actually the case.
in the congregation that i grew up in, i'm going to say that 95% of the young people in their teens to mid twenties are either regular pioneering, regular auxiliary pioneering, serving in foreign language congregations or where the need is greater.
both of my younger sisters are regular pioneers - and the young people in their hall even organize 8 pm to midnight service on friday nights of their own accord.
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24 baptized at Tucson, AZ today - attendance 5,670
by Gayle ina friend, non-jw, went to convention today.
she observed about 1/3 baptized were youth.. ***********************************************.
i read article:.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I am continually shocked at how baptisms have dropped off, yet the typical witnesses don't seem to realize it. A circuit assembly this weekend in London Ohio had 2 baptized out of 900 in attendance. 2/900 = .0022
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2013 DC new releases - rumors ???
by obarac inthere is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.
any other rumors about new releases?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
And to think it was just a push of a button on the computer and god's will is done.
LOL
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2013 DC new releases - rumors ???
by obarac inthere is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.
any other rumors about new releases?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I could see the large reference bible being made available only in electronic media. Simply because of the cost, and reasoning that they don't generally use it from the platform or in field service.
If the religion were really interested in the spiritual well being of their people (they are not and that is the problem) they do need to have a major revision of the NWT. Large parts of it, especially the OT, is worded in such an awkward manner as to be unreadable. Given that the 'translation' work was done between 1945 or so and 1961, it is remarkable that they are still using it.
I really doubt that the cash-strapped organization can pull it together to do anything other than band-aid tweaks to the NWT. Another complication is that whatever is done in English then has to be done in umpteen other languages. The cost would start to mushroom
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WT Society, Travel agency? Latest money making scheme?
by dropoffyourkeylee inrecently there was quite a buzz at the local hall of people applying to be a specially approved candidate to attend an international convention overseas.
one person i knew applied to go to the assembly next year in south africa.
she was elated to find she and her daughter-in-law were accepted for the south africa site.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Recently there was quite a buzz at the local hall of people applying to be a specially approved candidate to attend an international convention overseas. One person I knew applied to go to the assembly next year in South Africa. She was elated to find she and her daughter-in-law were accepted for the South Africa site. Now she finds out that the WT society's arranged tour will cost $8000 per person (US). She will probably back out as it is beyond her ability to pay. The advance letter and application did not give the cost. So my question is this, does the WT society get any portion of this? Is this simply another moneymaking scheme of the Society. It really sounds fishy to me.
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Watch Tower Corporation Listed Top Forty Revenue-Generating Companies in New York City, Reporting an Annual Revenue of About 951 Million US Dollars
by frankiespeakin inso are they a religious non profit corporation?
how is this dicotomy possible that they could generate such revenue and not make an accounting to irs?.
originally known as the peoples pulpit association, the organization was incorporated in 1909 when the society's principal offices moved to brooklyn, new york.
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dropoffyourkeylee
For a 2013 comparison, I located this website:
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2012/states/NY.html
which shows the top 50 companies in order of annual revenue in the state of New York, 42 of which are in NYC. To make this list the company needs 4.8 billion in annual revenue. Things have changed a lot in 12 years since 2001, I doubt the WT society would make any top 40 list now.
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Watch Tower Corporation Listed Top Forty Revenue-Generating Companies in New York City, Reporting an Annual Revenue of About 951 Million US Dollars
by frankiespeakin inso are they a religious non profit corporation?
how is this dicotomy possible that they could generate such revenue and not make an accounting to irs?.
originally known as the peoples pulpit association, the organization was incorporated in 1909 when the society's principal offices moved to brooklyn, new york.
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dropoffyourkeylee
Thanks gopher,
The 951M in 2001 equates to roughly 1.23 billion in today's dollars, due to inflation. I still would not have believed that would put it in the top 40 of a major financial center like New York. wow
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Watch Tower Corporation Listed Top Forty Revenue-Generating Companies in New York City, Reporting an Annual Revenue of About 951 Million US Dollars
by frankiespeakin inso are they a religious non profit corporation?
how is this dicotomy possible that they could generate such revenue and not make an accounting to irs?.
originally known as the peoples pulpit association, the organization was incorporated in 1909 when the society's principal offices moved to brooklyn, new york.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I have not read the links provided, but I find it hard to believe that 951M per year would put the WT organization in the top 40... nowhere near it
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QR codes: a way to stop APOSTATES !!!
by raymond frantz ininteresting meeting today.the do had the last talk and he mentioned a couple of things i have not heard before :.
1) the new lighter magazines are designed in a way to attract people to our website .
2)the ministry will change to incoprorate preacing in town centres and and with stands as in manhattan and certain brothers will be allocated to do this .so it is done now in a big scale ,organised.. 3)the qr codes at the back of the magazines are there for smart phone users to guide them directly to jw.org ,unlike bad old internet via laptops and pc's that you have to look for the website on google and sometimes end up in enemy websites that look like our website but are spreading lies about jw's (he said exactly that!
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dropoffyourkeylee
OK, help out an old guy. What is a QR code. I'm looking at a Feb 2013 16 page Awake and I don't see anything besides the usual 'jw.org'.
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Does anyone know of I high ranking elder in the Canada region named Lorne Morton?
by Vienna Angelika insupposedly he was one of the most well known elders living in canada in the second half of the 20th century.
he lived in winnipeg for quite a time frome what i hear.
any of you guys heard of him?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
No one has asked the obvious question, Why are you asking if anyone has heard of Lorne Morton? Is there an issue?