Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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“Do not gaze about!”

by slimboyfat in

so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.

take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.

do not be afraid, for i am with you.

I am always curious about questions like this, though I don't know Hebrew at all. I do have some reference books, where I see that the same Hebrew word appears later in the same chapter at 41:23. There the classic NWT read "that we may gaze about and see [it] at the same time" , whereas the 2013 version reads "So that we may be amazed when we see it", which seems quite a departure from the literal reading, even more than verse 10.

Just glancing at a few of the translations on my shelf, most of them read 'be not dismayed' or something like that in verse 10.

I would guess that the literal wording in verse 23 was excessively awkward and a change was definitely called for, and they changed the wording in verse 10 in sync.

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Does using BCE/CE draw attention away from Jesus? AFA similarity with WTS

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

i have never known the watchtower bible & tract society to use ad or bc, they have always maintained the bce and ce dating system.. i never thought about questioning it either, as it was no big deal.

however, i found one of the afa's latest news quite interesting... (american family association) is there a connection between the article below and the wts use of the bce/ce system?

is this evidence that indicates the wts is drawing attention away from jesus?.

dropoffyourkeylee

The terms BCE and CE are becoming more common in all types of literature. The WT adopted the practice earlier than many, but they are not the only ones to use it

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C T Russell and His Numerology.

by Lost in the fog in

i came across this older wt which i assume c t russell wrote the article.

unlike modern practitioners of numerology who calculate a value for each letter of the alphabet, russell simply adds up the number of letters in each word to arrive at [horror of horrors] 666.. and he lists there on the page each one of the organisations that must accordingly be part of the great harlot with 18 letters [in english] in their titles, because 18 is clearly 6+6+6 or 666!

strangely he hasn't stopped to think about another possibility for an 18 letter title.

dropoffyourkeylee

I've read similar things in other literature of the 1800's, so he probably was not the origin.

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Ministry school

by road to nowhere in

what is the purpose?

the skits are not real.

i have been assigned a reading again.

dropoffyourkeylee

I believe that in its origin, the Ministry School was invented in the WW2 years to support the WT claim that all JWs (men only at first) were ministers and could then get classified (ie: Qualified to be Ministers) as a minister and thus get draft exemption. In the Walsh case they presented this argument to support their stand. There was even a written exam for a time.

The 'school' has morphed into something else over the years, but I think that was the original impetus to introduce it into the weekly meetings.

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Will Adam Eve be resurrected? If not why? WT tell us.

by James Mixon in

jan. 15, 1960 wt.

page 53.

"since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.

dropoffyourkeylee

I remember reading some back and forth on this subject in some old books. The Bible Student groups held to the Russell teachings, opposed to Rutherford's (and Franz's) teaching on it. I seem to recall one of the PSL Johnson books going into it a great deal.

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Interesting place for a KH. My thoughts

by joe134cd in

yesterday i happened to be driving through a rural town where i made an observation.

first let me describe this town.

it’s almost a shadow of its former self.

dropoffyourkeylee

A KH in a place like that is hard to sell, so they are probably not in a big hurry to close the congregation like they are in more affluent places.

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Fred Franz 85 talk on WTS History

by Vanderhoven7 in

learn why fred quit university to join the watchtower.

https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.

dropoffyourkeylee

Franz's statements about this were always ambiguous enough to leave a lot of questions. I only half believe what he said on the subject.

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Watchtower Society's progression of Pirate Black Beard after his resurrection

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

good news from god!.

lesson 6. .

what hope is there for the dead?.

dropoffyourkeylee

lol

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JW living on Military Bases?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i just read that civilians can live on military bases.

i was wondering can jw live there and still be in a good standing?

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dropoffyourkeylee

My mother-in-law was an active JW and lived in Air Force base housing for 21 years. Mostly in the US, as far as I know.

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Has the Kingdom Interlinear Translation been pulled off the shelves

by homme perdu in

i was searching for it at the hall's library and i didnt find a copy.

i also asked the literature department for a copy and they said they werent familiar with the bible.

what is going on?

dropoffyourkeylee

This may be old news, but the JW app contains the Kingdom Interlinear, with the Interlinear portion in English. It isn't exactly the same as the print version, as it does not contain the parallel English NWT on the right side.