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  The Watchtower's Depiction of 'paradise'..

  by Ron.W. in

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  perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.

  from: spirits of the dead​—can they help you or harm you?

  do they really exist?.

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  Polar bears are named such because of their preferred environment. And it isn't in mid summer as in this picture.
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  The Watchtower's Depiction of 'paradise'..

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.

  from: spirits of the dead​—can they help you or harm you?

  do they really exist?.

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  In the 1930s Watchtower booklets sometimes illustrated paradise as their artists pictured it. Here are two examples:

  From His Works, 1934:

  

  The image shows a pastoral society with the shepherd viewing post Armageddon remains. A bit gruesome.

  This is from Home and Happiness, 1932:

  

  Image shows a nice home - 1930s style of course - with a discarded cannon used as a bird's nest.
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  Questions about WT illustrations

  by Beck_Melbourne in

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  when i was a kid....i used to look at the wt illustrations of paradise conditions and would day dream about life in the new system....i later used this same technique (shame on me) to brain wash bible students.

  however...as i grew up lol (apparently!

  ) the illustrations changed....and became more modern.

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  when I was much younger than I am now, Mom, Uncle B and my aunt and a cousin toured Brooklyn Bethel. Many of the original paintings used as Watchtower illustrations hung in hallways. They were well-executed paintings. When translated to publication illustrations all that was lost, and they became quite ugly.

  I wondered why they didn't use sketches and line drawings that would have translated to the page more effectively. Today, of course, they can print photographs which translate to text illustrations more clearly.
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  Odd bit of Watch Tower history

  by vienne in

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  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2024/08/1912-world-missionary-tour.html.

  from russell's 1912 world tour.

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  https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2024/08/1912-world-missionary-tour.html

  From Russell's 1912 World Tour.
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  The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

  by aqwsed12345 in

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  1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

  the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

  there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

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  if you expect me to read all of that, you're delusional. Certainly you can defend your religion in a sentence or two. I do not care what "the church" - your religion of choice - teaches. I care what the Bible teaches. The Catholic Church would have been at home in its own temple in ancient Babylon. It's time you find what the Bible actually teaches instead of looking to a religion that rapes children, steals from the poor, teaches falsehood and consorts with criminals.

  Are you incapable of accepting the Bible at its word? Are you incapable of writing something succinct?

  Your verbal spew is not convincing.
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  The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
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  1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

  the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

  there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

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  your church has never proclaimed christ's truth. identity as christian most certainly depends on behavior. matthew 7 says so. your church is run by "workers of lawlessnes." hence it is not christian. calling reports of catholic unfaithfulness and lawlessnes myth is moronic. it's escapism.
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  Child Sacrifice and Exodus 22:29

  by joey jojo in

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  im not a bible scholar - lets just get that out the way first.

  i recently came across exodus 22:29, which is an interesting scripture that seems to require israelites to sacrifice their firstborn to god.. i searched this forum and cant seem to find any topic about it so i thought id start one and see what you guys think.

  im sure it probably has been discussed here already, but i cant find it.. anyway, exodus 22:29 says:.

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  Exodus 13:13 commands them to redeem their firstborn sons. This was done by paying the priests five silver shekels.
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  The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

  the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

  there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

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  Catholic doctrine is not apostolic. So while they may see a centuries long connected chain, it is a connected history of apostasy. The OP's pervious posts defended the Trinity, the veneration of Mary and other such nonsense that all derive from pagan worship. The Catholic church's history of murder and repine - something that continues - shows it to be anything but Christian. It is Christian in name only.

  The past century Witnessed the kidnapping and murder of a young woman, a resident of Vatican City; the concordant with Hitler; the compromise of the Catholic Centralist party in Nazi Germany; the hiding of war criminals, financial 'mismanagement'; interference in and threats to Central American states; priestly support for the Argentinian dictatorship; murders and rapes in Catholic run Canadian schools for indigenous children. None of this is Christ - Like behavior. And none of it is new. And similar things continue. Yet, the OP thinks he's part of and defending the one true church. That's deranged thinking.
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  The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

  the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

  there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

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  The issue isn't an "unbroken history," but continuity of doctrine from the first century. that can't be established for the Roman church.
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  The Question of the "Great Apostasy" and the Historical Continuity of Christianity

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the continuity and visibility of the church.

  the true church must be continuous from the apostolic age.

  there is no room in christianity for a "gap" or interruption of thousands of years during which true christianity ceased to exist and then was revived in the form of another movement.

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  There is so much "fake history" in the original post that it is startling. but not surprising. the op is mentally and historically blind.