Posts by notjustyet

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Stronger than Hypnosis

by Londo111 in

being the society is anti-hypnosis, i know very little about it.

but from what i've observed it often involves willing participants focusing their concentration, usually involving repetition, until the subject is in a state where suggestions can be implanted in their mind.

bite can involve hypnosis, but in many instances it may not.

notjustyet

I think that "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven hassan touches on a hypnotic style indoctrination that uses long hours of boring non sense to get you into the state of mind that allows you to accept certain beliefs without questioning them.

Notice how all the new info comes out toward the end of a multi day District Convention or Circuit assembly? Also were we not told ( I cannot not remember) to not tell others that have not attended their own DC and CA anout any "new light"?

If so, it goes hand in hand with getting the mind prepped prior for non critical thinking just before releasing the info to the masses.

Also releasing the new info at this point at a DC or a CA, while inthe midst of SO MANY friends all clapping in agreement makes it easier to swallow as compared to hearing about any new light while alone without all the pre mind numbing days of previous talks.

They have had quite awhile to perfect these processes.

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Leaving JW Tracts at the Funeral Visitation

by OnTheWayOut in

jw's cannot help themselves.

a couple who were very close friends with my wife and i when i was a jw had a few kids that grew up.

none of their kids remained jw despite their heavy activity while growing up.

notjustyet

Has anyone ever carried around some anti witness tracks, JWFACTS.com has a pdf of them, or something like this to "insert inside" any WT mags that they see laying around

hospitals, nursing homes, etc, etc.?

This would help innoculate anyone that might have a tendency to pick up a WT or Awake! !!

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Does Jehovah Still Call Black People the "No-No" Word?

by arko_n9ne in

i feel the title is an attention-grabber, but in no means am i looking to start racial tension on jwn.. i know in the past, at least to the 50's from what i've read, the watchtower society has been very demeaning toward people of a less alabaster pigment.

in one instance saying white people were superior and god blessed them that way for good reason.. however, i have not been able to find an official statement from them in any of their printed works that either clears up or apologizes and further corrects that bold standing.. so, to those much wiser than me, is there an official statement from the watchtower identifying people of different race as equal?

and if not, to the ex/current brothers and sisters who are of an "ethnic" background, what are your feelings on the society's derrogatory statements being left unchanged 60-100 years later?.

notjustyet

Here is a link to JWFACTS.com and there is some old references to people with darker skin.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/black-skin.php

Hope this helps,....

7

Flock Book

by Iconoclast in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i used to have a copy of the flock book but no longer.

i went to the same link as i downloaded before and it's no longer working, pulled down by big brother, no doubt.

notjustyet

Any chance of getting a valid link sent to me via a PM,.. anyone?

Thanks if possible,,,,

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Letter of DA from attorney to Elders becomes gossip fodder -- Society, Elders culpable?

by FatFreek 2005 in

on a recent thread, i posted a question there but was too late.

it had fallen off the radar.

that thread was about someone who had an attorney mail notice to their local congregation that they had terminated membership.

notjustyet

" I quit, your fired"

At what point can you hand the elders a DA letter, where you would have been DF and they will go with the DA instead.

I think it is at the point where you meet with a JC and they want to talk among themselves, and when you come back in to hear their answer, when they give the answer of DF, it would be too late. Is this correct?

SO if you handed them your unknown till now, DA letter, before the last meeting among the Elders, this would work I think.

I did hear a audio recording in the past where this happened.

It would seem that there has to be a specific time that it will go one way or the other.

Any ideas?

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Do you know anybody that got reinstated really fast after being df'd?

by Iamallcool in

i was reading one of the posts here that 15 year old was df'd but he got reinstated in 5 months.

do you know of any case that someone got reinstated pretty fast after being df'd?.

notjustyet

Less than 2 months, and I hear that 2 months is a minimum.

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STEVE HASSAN coming to Cult Free Radio on November 19

by Mad Sweeney in

jw
friends

you read that right.

just finished talking to steve a half hour ago.. november 19 at 10pm est, steve hassan's interview will air on cult free radio on ustream.

i will also have a co-host that evening to discuss bite mind control and steve's interview.. https://www.facebook.com/cultfreeradio.

notjustyet

Are you serious!!

How in the world did you pull that one off?

Can't wait to hear about it,..

Please put it on Youtube for more people to be able to hear,..when you get the chance.

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Marry Only in the Lord

by compound complex in

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friends

misgivings, to be sure, .

another pursued her .

with real intent, a burning zeal.

notjustyet

Sometimes I think that the "Marry only in the Lord" was for the benefit of the unbeliever.

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What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?

by minimus in

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friends

i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".

the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .

.

notjustyet

Not a formal counseling, just stupid rule at convention.

At a convention and a 8-10 yr old parapalegic, or a cereberal palsey boy in a laydown wheel chair had been wheeled up to a 2nd floor level to get a better view of the Drama on Sunday.

He was wheeled into a specially marked area just for wheelchairs etc all marked in blue and designated for this use. The parent was getting him all situated as that drama was getting ready to start and

an attendent approached the father and told him that he would not be able to be stay there as they had been told not to let anyone be in that area. Now location was not blocking the view of anyone above at all as the

next level of seating would be behind him and started about 7ft up.

I aproached the attendent and got fairly heated at him and told him that this area was designated a space by law, ADA and that he does not have permission to deny this child this spot. He said that was the rules and the father said it would be okay and the

father of the boy did not cause a scene and pushed his son back to the floor area where all good children with physical challenges are supposed to be.

I was livid!!!

That was a pretty good wakeup call for me, made me see that something was not right here.

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Panic Attacks

by trailerfitter in

hi, i was reading on here a while ago that some of you guys and girls suffer from panic attacks.

how common is this in the jws?

the wife had a bible study today and i was sort of listening looking for a discussion point.

notjustyet

Funny, I just posted this info over on JWR a few minutes ago,.. and maybe I am having these panic attacks,.. just did not know what they were.

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Since I have been deeply doing research (reading this forum) even before, for the last few years I would say I have been having small burst of anxiety, maybe for a second or so each time.

I would only be able to compare it to the feeling when you almost fall backwards in a chair, and you catch yourself.
That rush you get knowing that you almost fell, it's like that but on a lower scale. Seems somehow that feeling is less if you actually fall, not sure why.

But if that feeling, in the chair, was a 10 on a scale of 1-10, then these feelings are about a 5-6 for about a second or so. I've even had a slight body jerk, or twist, kinda like when you are chilled. Get this, even have made a slight vocal sound when it is worse.
Many times, all throughout the day I feel like a 1-2 for hours at a time.
I'm able to function normally but am wondering if this is somehow tied to what I'm discovering about the WTBTS?
Anyone else have any type of physical abnormalities during the time that you were, or are now, finding out the truth about the truth?