hubby and i (faders) were in the supermarket today.
we had just avoided and completely ignored an elder and his wife when we saw a newly married couple who were both recently disfellowshipped, of course being the rebels we are we made a bee line for them.
the df man was until recently a workmate of my hubby so they quickly got into an animated discussion and i met the new wife who seemed nice but let me know they were getting reinstated asap.
I think that when you said " I let them know that it was my DF years ago that set me on the path to realising that it wasnt the true religion." and they still invited you over to their house after that it shows that they are open minded enough to want to know more about TTATT.
This could be your chance to plant some seeds that may get them into doing some research, if not already.
NJY
good morning all,.
i have had the opportunity over the last couple of years to speak with a couple of jw's who had either attended the same congregation i did or were married to someone who to the same one.
for the record, i disassociated myself in 1992 due to being followed around by an elder or two who had heard that i had ray franz's "crisis of conscience" in my possession.
I agree, they have to settle their minds with the thought that there is something wrong with us. Otherwise, leaving could be justified and we know that the WTBTS cannot let that thought come up into the minds of the sheeple.
NJY
for what ever reason i have been contacted by a number of jw's as to why i do not attend the meetings etc.
in the past i have blown it off by saying i am super busy, tired, sick etc.
i had the opportunity just last week when i ran into an elder and his wife at the grocery store to respond to their comment.
Great thought besty.
one of my stated reasons for no longer attending:
"Why do my kids have a lower level of protection from child molesters than elders kids?"
Answer: Disfellowship me.
NJY
you ca'nt deny the many bible truths we have learned so how can the wt society have been so wrong about the "end"?.
one can accept the reason why it did'nt come in 1975, "jehovahs wants people to worship him out of love and not for a date".
but it should have come by the late 1980's .
Check out this heading
by following this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Many of us have experienced the same things in the past.
Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others.
An early version of cognitive dissonance theory appeared in Leon Festinger's 1956 book, When Prophecy Fails. This book gives an account of the deepening of cult members' faith following the failure of a cult's prophecy that a UFO landing was imminent. The believers met at a pre-determined place and time, believing they alone would survive the Earth's destruction. The appointed time came and passed without incident. They faced acute cognitive dissonance: had they been the victim of a hoax? Had they donated their worldly possessions in vain? Most members chose to believe something less dissonant to resolve reality not meeting their expectations: they believed that the aliens had given earth a second chance, and the group was now empowered to spread the word that earth-spoiling must stop. The group dramatically increased their proselytism despite the failed prophecy. [7]
NJY
a couple of days ago, jehovah's witnesses came round to my house.
nothing exceptional in that, you might say.
it happens every day, all over the world.. but those of you who know me, or who have followed my story, know how traumatised i was when i finally got away from them, and you'll remember that i wrote a letter three or four weeks after walking away, ending all contact.
I like to compare the "Truth" to a virus, once you have taken your antibiotic and have beaten that strain of "bug"(WTBTS arguments) any left over "bugs" that present themselves to your "new immune system" will fail in bringing you back down.
On another note, I think it is very important to take ALL of your antibiotic, (continued research ever after you think you are "out") per the Drs order, as if you do not, it can come back to haunt you and take you out.
( I have not seen so many comparisons since the original Leviathan breakdown)
NJY
ALL I want for Christmas is to have my user name changed from notjustyet to " scummydross " lol
(wt 1957 june 15 p. 370) .
watchtower 1957 june 15 p.370 "it is vital that werespond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of god.
" (wt 1964 june 15 p. 365) .
marked
recent responses to teeny's "siestas are bad" blog on jwb have seen witnesses defending their stance against birthdays on the basis that the practice has "pagan origins".
that got me wondering how many things with a "pagan origin" a witness accepts in their daily life without a fuss.
upon examination it seems they may be nearly as "steeped in paganism" as the religions they condemn.. for the details (and at least one good chuckle) please see my latest blog:.
They get around the wedding as being okay as Jehovah institooted the marriage arrangment as he is the 3rd in the three fold chord and now we all know that he likes a 3some.
"No one should throw rice outside as it can kill the birds who eat it. This custom has now been updated to throw bird seed instead. "
Unless you have a over abundance of birds in your area. If not, can you throw boiled rice?
Also, have you seen the JW answer to the calendar paganism?
Read about it here, totally pompous.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/124676/1/The-Calendar-of-Jehovah-God
NJY
if jesus allowed peter to carry a sword for protection, why are the jehovah's witnesses against carry a weapon during their "fun" door-to-door adventuring?
it seems jesus did not mind that peter carried a sword if we read luke 22:36-38. is it another case of picking and choosing what works for their man-made doctrine?.
is defending oneself a violent act, according to the jehovah's witnesses?
Not allowed to carry due to the fact that this makes the angels hovering overhead seem,..... well,... less likely to exist.
Got to keep those fairy tales alive somehow.
NJY
How long did it take the GB to squash any rumours back in those days?
Why did they not squash those rumours that were started about 1975 ?
Why did they not come out and state that 1975 as being the date for the big A was not from them?
Where is the BOE letters that state how to reign in these falehoods prior to Oct 1975 would be worht extra points.
NJY
i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.
i know we have a few young earth creationists here.
i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..
It was said in an earlier post:
" The bibles account of creation is very simple and some things don't even add up. Ie. how could plants be created before sunlight or insects? It's obvious that the account of creation is not to be taken literally but merely to give us an 'idea' of how it came about."
But what would be the need to get these atatements out of order? Why would god not relay this info to Moses in the correct sequence? What is the benefit for doing this as it would only lead people that would read it centuries later to doubt a creator existed when relaying it in the correct sequence would help people believe in a creator.
NJY
