i had just became a witness and a guy i worked with, who was also a jw, told me a story that actually made me laugh and i think it upset him a bit.
the storys were almost always in the third person.
it went as follows.. this brothers wife and him were sitting at the kingdom hall on the end seats of the row next to the back of the room.
Family member told me that the WTBTS has a "on call" brother that travels around the USA performing what I would consider exorcisms for the friends where the elders are not able to handle it.
Sounds bogus to me.
I mean someone admitting the elders can't handle something, come on!!!
NJY
Will somone just go and drink a bit of wine and drop some dentures in the glass for me? Will yah?
NJY
does anyone know anything about this ..i heard from family that all letters and latest arrangements are accessible to elders on jw.org but they need to have a password.
wondered if anyelders here could give us it...or will it identify someone?.
Please don't think of using "Beth-sarim-1874" as a password,.. Not a good idea,..
Want to guess how any elders thought that "1914" was their own special idea.
NJY
i know there are a lot of examples to choose from but i want to find wt references that are the most blatant.
the printed evidence can be a great resource to all, including jw lurkers who fact-check.. .
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Go to Jwfacts.com to find out some info about prejudice.
NJY
does anyone know anything about this ..i heard from family that all letters and latest arrangements are accessible to elders on jw.org but they need to have a password.
wondered if anyelders here could give us it...or will it identify someone?.
I think that she means that the WTBTS could record which documents were being downloaded by user "x" if they wanted to record that for later review.
Also they can see if user "x" has logged in 379 times in the last week, where the average user logs in 1 time a week so that would set off a flag that this users account info has been stolen, shared etc.
I would think also that they could see what Ip address is being used to log into the site so if the user account is being logged in from all over the world it could set off a flag.
On another note, I believe it is possible for the WTBTS to record the page that a user left just before landing on their site. And if that person log into the site they would be able to link up , for instance, Elder Lurker leaves jwfacts.com and then next logs into jw.org and logs in. I beleive they would be able to put 2 and 2 together and see that Elder Lurker has been checking out Paul Grundys site.
Even if you do not log into the site, I would think that EVEN visiting JW.org just after leaving any apostate site, even without logging into their site would show that "someone" from Huntsville AL area (IPinfo) left Jehovahswitnessrecovery.com and then landed on JW.org and went to page x, page y, page z etc,..
They could see the exact page you left and also your history on their site. This info could be sent to the local body of elders to possibly unt a person down.
Not to scare anyone from lurking, just make sure that you visit a non apostate site just prior to landing on their site.
Any techies that can confirm or deny this info, I could be wrong about some if not all of it as I have just gleaned this info over the years and am in no way an expert.
NJY
yesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
TO play Devils advocate, has this letter from Mr. Unthank been confirmed?
NJY
today i was doing some research for a new article, and i came across the following quote which succeeded in raising my eyebrows.... "the obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates.
our attitude toward apostates should be that of david, who declared: 'do i not hate those who are intensely hating you, o jehovah, and do i not feel a loathing for those revolting against you?
with a complete hatred i do hate them.
" ,.....As individuals, those of 'the faithful and discreet slave' are imperfect humans. "
But when we meet together each and every week and our golden rings touch in unison, not to be mistaken with the pagan practice of toasting, we are no longer considered "individuals" and out powers together override our imperfectnesseses!!!"
NJY
service as a way of relieving our pain.... .
no, not field service.
i cant believe all the empty hours i spent knocking on doors, going where i was not welcome, not wanting to be there either, foisting magazines on people, occasionally studying with people in an effort to indoctrinate them.
I think that this might apply to going out in service.
( I had to make a edit and removed the word "severe" and replaced it with the word "MILD" as "severe" was used in both examples in error)
Further information: Effort justification
Dissonance is aroused whenever individuals voluntarily engage in an unpleasant activity to achieve some desired goal. Dissonance can be reduced by exaggerating the desirability of the goal. Aronson & Mills [16] had individuals undergo a severe or mild "initiation" in order to become a member of a group. In the MILD -initiation condition, the individuals engaged in an embarrassing activity. The group they joined turned out to be very dull and boring. The individuals in the severe-initiation condition evaluated the group as more interesting than the individuals in the mild-initiation condition.
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I believe that going out in service, aka severe initiation, would have us rank the JWs as "more interesting" of a group to be associated with as this would help us reduce the dissonance.
The more unatural or severe the initiation. What's more unatural than going from door to door to tell people that they are wrong and also giving public talks as public speaking is ranked high on the list of phobias.
Food for thought.
NJY
gems from the latest km on how to behave at the 2013 dcs..... .
if possible, care for restroom needs before the start of the session.
turn off your cell phone so that you will not be distracted by calls or texts or be tempted to text others during the program.
"And in case you did not notice, your still under our control while out in the corridors as you will notice the attendants with signs reminding you who is in charge as they tell to "please keep moving" and " quiet please"
NJY
i hear they may have wifi in some halls ..... and then we have cell phones, don't we?.
ever heard of a witness teenager who can blind text with the phone in his pocket?
you could download porn while the brother on stage condemns it.
I think that they can grab your MAC address from your phone etc and possibly see who was downloading what, not sure.
NJY
