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  JW's will foam at the mouth if you pray to Jesus? Do they try to tell you this prior to the big sting?

  by Narcissistic Supply in

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  it took me 7 years to figure out that jeho's are mortified to sit in the room if you pray to jesus.

  i've prayed to jesus my entire life.

  i tell my estranged spouse that she can pound sand if she doesn't like me praying to jesus with my two little girls.. i tell her and her mom to pound lots and lots of sand if you think i"m going to stop praying to jesus.

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  They actually worshipped Jesus up until 1954.

  Then it was idolatrous.

  Here is a URL that you will have to copy and paste that discusses this flip flop on the matter.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/worship-jesus.php

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  Alcyone was Jehovahs "crib"

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was doing some reading up on the wtbts former belief that the annointed would go and be with jehovah and jesus on "alcyone" when they died.

  (alcyone is a star system in the constellation taurus.

  it is the brightest star in the pleiades open cluster, which is a young cluster, aged at less than 50 million years.

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  notjustyet

  I was doing some reading up on the WTBTS former belief that the annointed would go and be with Jehovah and Jesus on "Alcyone" when they died. (Alcyone is a star system in the constellation Taurus. It is the brightest star in the Pleiades open cluster, which is a young cluster, aged at less than 50 million years. Alcyone is approximately 370 light years from Earth. Wikipedia)

  Alcyone is in the Pleiades constellation and you may have heard that Charles Taze(r) Russel believed that this was where the throne of Jah was as this star was thought to be the center of the Universe. Ties in with some mytholgy and pyramid stuff etc,..

  Anyway, didn't the Heavens Gate members think that when they died that they would be taken to a waiting spaceship hiding in the tail of the Hail Bop Comet?

  We all pretty much think that the Heavens Gate members are KRAE KRAE right? Is there really that much difference in belief between what the early JWs used to believe and what the Heavens Gate members "used" to believe? Just really the location as to where they would wind up. Jws would be Alyone, Heavens Gate would be Hale Bops Comet (in space ship) Jws beleived it would happen the instant when they died, Heavens Gate believed it the instant when they died.

  I have not heard what the current belief is as far as "where" everyone of the annointed is supposed to wind up when they die. I would love to ask them is they were going to be spread around the universe or be in one location like a government usually does. Of course they would have to be able to obseves what is happening on the Earth etc. I would love to try to pin them down on what physical location they would say that they would be confined to.

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  Being told you are hated by everyone?

  by trailerfitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, after a discussion with the seperated wife who admitted that because she is a jehovahs witness that she expects to be hated by everyone.

  she expressed that she was "foreign" and not the same as others since she is not of this world.

  okay, reality check - this is actually taught by the watchtower?

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  "Worldly" what does it mean?

  by msconcerned in

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  i have recently been using the expression "people not of our faith" and it shocks me to be corrected everytime by, "you mean worldly".

  i dont really like the word worldly because i feel it is a degrading word to describe people we love so much that we try to find them in the ministry.

  below are a couple of quotes from recent watchtowers that really give us the esscence of the word worldly as far as the watchtower is concerned.. janusz, who lives in eastern europe, became engrossed in his gardening business.

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  My family and I have been out going on 2 years and last year when one of my sons teachers ( who knows our story about leaving this cult) told my wife

  " It's great getting to know him, he is so worldy" She saw my wifes face change to concern ( and then added ) "Oh,.. I mean worldy in a good way, well rounded, travelled and an impressive vocabulary for his age" (I'm paraphrasing here a bit, but you get the gest)

  My wife then understood that she meant "wordly" in a good way, the way that non cult members see it. They both had a chuckle at that.

  It does go to show that there sometimes can be some cobwebs that stick in the mind as far as the cults definition of certain words.

  We were glad to hear that our child is considered "wordly" on both levels really,...

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  Scriptural Grounds for divorce.....

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was watching a dumb show with my dear wife.

  in the program a wife tried unsuccessfully to kill her husband.

  i remarked to my wife "if you ever did that i would divorce you!

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  notjustyet

  Calebs Airplane,..

  Three times for emphasis?

  I can see through your ploy,...lol

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  Most Awkward, Embarrassing, Comical things you Experienced as a Witness ?

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  many of us i'm sure experienced embarrassing or comical moments as a witness.

  some things we'd rather just forget , i'm sure, but some things helped us think on our feet, quickly in helping others .

  here are a few of mine.

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  Heard that this older country, not city, brother ( great person by the way) was offering the magazines and one of the articles was on

  Nuclear Fission. I heard that he said to the householder that he had heard of all types of fishing, but had never heard of nuclear fishing.

  I had been joking around with my cohorts that I knew the bible all the way from "Generation to Revolution" purposely saying the names of the books incorrectly. SO I had actually been saying this more than the actual names and found myself out in service with the CO and I wind up telling the householder that our bible is like many others and goes from, you guessed it, "generations to revolutions" Right in the middle of saying this I knew what had happened and kinda knew I had messed up right there infront of God and more importantly the CO.

  I then tried to explain to the CO after we left the door WHY I had messed up as I had been joking around with my friends etc, and he kinda just smiled a bit which I thought was unusual as I thought he would drop the hammer on me for that one.

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  A small victory over WT child indoctrination.

  by trailerfitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over the last few years it has been a stuggle to ensure my son who is now eight years old is not indoctrinated into the rediculous world of the watchtower.

  whilst i am separated from my wife she takes every opportunity to try to get him to slave for jeeehoovah (joseph stalin as i call him).

  today, after a discussion i found out she has yet again tried to explain that god made the world etc, and the noahs arc story.

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  Great job,..

  Here is a great video from Qualisoup (youtube channel) that you might want to share with your son. They also have some other great

  videos for children to help them learn how to think, instead of telling them what to think.

  NJY

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg
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  David Splane stares at school children

  by VM44 in

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  2. scandals

  may 11 2013, zone visit; brother splane visits ireland.

  brother splane spoke on the subject should you wear sauls garment?.

  .... "bro and sis splane were once assigned to a fanatically catholic town.

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  I knew I had seen Splane somewhere before,..

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUnhfvGdmmw
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  Interview of a sister - Friday morning at the District Convention

  by Red Piller in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from my memory and shortened for highlights [my comments in brackets.

  i found the whole interview astonishing]:.

  "sister x-, you've been a baptized servant of jehovah since 1972.. you must have seen a lot since that time".

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  I wish someone would make their exit by getting a part on the convention and then when they have the microphone say something like "I'm sorry, I keep forgetting what you all asked me to say,.. its so hard to remember what you asked me to say, please forgive me."

  Or start explaing the Generation doctrine, as it was back in time around 1930s, then apologize for saying "Im so sorry, I forget that the definition of that word has changed again, it's so confusing,.. please forgive me for asking this again but what was the reason that Jesus did not just say "generations" with an S if that is what he meant to say?

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  Moving to Memphis

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband and i are moving to memphis soon.

  does anyone have any info.

  one thing i like is no harsh winters.. it's scary but exciting moving to a new place.

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  I have heard that there can be some pretty bad places to find yourself so please know where your going before taking off nilly willy.

  Know where NOT to go,...

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