an example on how the wt gets things out of proportion.
this is all we know about dinah's "friends" from the bible: .
"and dinah the daughter of leah, which she bare unto jacob, went out to see the daughters of the land" (ge 34:1).. wt conclusion: .
I could never understand why Dinah would go over to another tribed to get raped. There were laws about being raped within the Jweish system of things, right? So does that not mean that since there were laws about rape that it must have been more than a infrequent experience.
NJY
i'm tired of hearing people grovel before their "benevolent" creator.. recently i was listening to a jw relative express regrets over their rebellious life-style when they were young.
then came that phrase:.
"i'm so greatful for jehovah's undeserved kindness and that he can accept me with my sinful past.".
Im just waiting for somone to tell me,...
"You don't deserve,... Jehovahs,.. Undeserved kindness!!" Me " Uh,,,, could you please say that one more time again as I had a hard time following that the first time"
NJY
it seems the finland branch has taken over the work from estonia, latvia and lithuania (see http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/offices/finland/).
Trouble is, when the heart and brain are all that's left, they can't function any more, either.
Wonderful thought isn't it?
NJY
so there is a rumor going around about 1914 and its possible demise!.
i cant help but think of the many and i say many divorces (not to make light of the matter) that jw families have had to deal with among their ranks over the years.. however, knowing how long the wtbts and 1914 have been together and the thought of mother (wtbts) doing away with her man (1914) after nearly 100 years of marriage is truly heart breaking for some.
many old-timers probably still think of the old days when they were like any other happy couple; inseparable, always holding hands, romantic and the like.
I can understand the need to just let 1914 drift away but with the recent 2010 change of the definition of the word "generation" being over lapping how does this not keep 1914 ever present as this is the starting point of the 1st generation that will over lap with the 2nd generation.
NJY
there can be no dual fulfillement of matthew 24 as claimed by the wt.
because jesus said to those standing infront of him "then there will be great tribulation not seen since the worlds beginning until now and would never be seen again".
part of the signs that those who were standing in fornt of him would see in their lifetime.
good point cassuk11
NJY
hello.
i wanting the scanned pdf of the finished mistery but the first edition from 1917. i found only the text version.
but i want the scanned.
I know that you asked for a 1917 but wanted to at least share this 1918 one.
http://archive.org/stream/TheFinishedMystery/1917_The_Finished_Mystery_1918_edition#page/n1/mode/2up
NJY
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/9124458/witnesses-sell-elim-buys.
it was the national headquarters for the jehovah's witnesses for 30 years.. but the 7.5ha wattle downs property has now been sold to elim church and could soon house a new christian college.. jehovah's witness minister george gray says advances in technology mean the property is no longer needed for running the church's new zealand and south pacific activities which will now be administered from australia.. elim church bought the property for its growing south auckland congregation and volunteers helped transform the site in just a matter of days.. pastor boyd ratnaraja says the congregation moved in on a sunday straight after morning services at their much smaller weymouth rd premises.. "they have done a superb job of setting up," he says.. the church will hold services for its 450-strong congregation at its new home as well as running counselling sessions and operating an op shop and a weekly soup kitchen.. "we believe in reaching out to the community.
we want this to be a centre of hope.
"They wanted us to have it and they said it had nothing to do with us offering the highest price."
NJY
last weekend.
so unbelievably sad.
rip.
Suicides usually only happen one at a time and would usually have some family members that would be halluded it was alluded to they this religion had something to do with it. If fear of hurting a family member prevents an honest evaluation on whether or not the WTBTS control over a person has anything to do with the suicide, you will never get to the chance to look into the matter.
If what a previous poster squid was true about the BOE letter stating that the WTBTS does not want any participation in surveys, then that alone should be reason to think that prey know the numbers are higher than the populace.
Don't let fear of hurting a few person thoughts or feeling prevent research that could save actual lives.
Here are a few links that I had seen in the past regarding Jws and their mental health.
NJY
http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-witnesses-and-psychiatric.html
last weekend.
so unbelievably sad.
rip.
Steve2,.
I'm not sure why you would not want the media to run with this story, IF it is factually presented. I'm not talking about a tabloid expose on this persons life, just a highlighting of the facts about the high level of depression in the JWs and how the GB WTBTS seems to be clamping down even harder on the JWs.
How will people outside the JWs, possibly even some Jws, know what that these things are happening unless it is brought out into the public eye.
It could actually save lives of those that are just getting interested in the Jws.
If done in a prefessional manner I do not see a downside.
NJY
jane doe v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. .
jury trial - june 14, 2012 - day 10. .
mr. schnack: ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the judge has instructed you that it is your choice to award or not to award punitive damages.
I think that if she comes out victorious, she gets 10 Percent on that money yearly. I would let it ride for a bit if I were her.
I mean where can you get 10 percent these days?
NJY
