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  Pumping up Field Service Time to the Billions of Hours

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we know that wt has been inflating the hours spent for a long time so that their "growth" looks good on paper and for bragging rights.

  here is a quote from the 2008 km:.

  *** km 9/08 p. 3 question box ***.

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  Here is some info from JWFACTS.com

  " In 1969 there was one baptism for every 1,983 hours of preaching. During the 1980s it had risen to 3,000 hours. From 1990 to 2005 the number of hours preaching required per baptism increased from 3000 to 5000, an increase of 60%.

  More significant is the number of hours required for an additional publisher. Due to the large increase in Witnesses leaving the religion, the number of hours preaching required per additional publisher has doubled from 4,000 in the early 1990's to over 8,000 since 2000. The difference from 1991 and 2005 from 4,000 to 16,000 is 400%."

  Here is the page it was taken from, lots of great number crunching on that page.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

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  Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  or the 2000's generation thing?.

  how did you feel?

  how did it help you wake up?

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  The generation change on 2010 was a biggie for me as well. I only heard about it at a family gathering and the others were discussing it and I was like "Excuse me, can you explain what your talking about?" as I had an usual job at the time and missed the Watchtower and Assembly part where these would have been discussed.

  I kinda blew a gassket right then and there saying things like "you have got to be kidding me, really?!!" I had a few chuckles like this is ludicrus (sp?) when I caught myself and stopped as the others there did not find it so amusing, they were looking at me like I was crazy for not believing it. (invasion of the body snatchers kinda feeling) Internally I was thinking " How do any of you REALLY believe this hogwash!!! you have got to be kidding me, this is so obvious that they are making these things up as they go along"

  So I ask my wife later why did she not fill me in on this new light and she said that she knew how I always reacted to new light from the WTBTS and did not want to rock my boat as it were.

  I do remember having a reaction back around 1995 to the generation change but cannot truly remember what the teaching was prior to that and also what exactly changed about it in that year.

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  Medical marijuana and the congregation

  by zed is dead in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not know if anyone has ever asked this question before.. if you live in a state where it is legal to smoke marijuana with a prescription, will the congregation take any action against a member of it that smokes it?

  i imagine that they wouldn't disfellowship anyone, but it may not make the person eligible for priveleges.. has there been any letter from hq to the boes about it?.

  i am just curious.. zed.

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  Maybe if confronted by the elders about using you coud argue that you had read in the bible, and the WTBTS has printed that some first century Christians "got stoned"

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  Michael Jackson's kids decide no more going door-to-door

  by Gopher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article made my day.

  it looks like paris jackson and her brother prince michael have told katherine they simply aren't interested in peddling jw stuff from door-to-door any more.

  i'm glad they are becoming their own people and emerging from their grandmother's control.. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/paris-jackson-prince-michael-jackson-jehovas-witness/.

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  Maybe "Logan's Shun".

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  New Magazine says birthdays will kill you

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new july 2013 awake says this on page 3:.

  "there is a 14 percent greater probability that a person over 60 years of age will die on his birthday rather than on other days.".

  wow, they have now proven that birthdays are pagan and not fit for christians!.

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  Maybe it was due to second hand fires, I mean 60 candles a burning.

  I think also one of the Bible stories about a person being "hung" on his birthday was out of context.

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  WTF just happened??? An elder I haven't seen in years stopped by to hand me a XXXXXXXX !!!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so yesterday afternoon, an elder who lives only 3 blocks away drives up to my house as i was about to enter my car.

  as he gets out of his car, i noticed he had a stack of photocopied paper in his hand and he seemed quite nervous.

  i was genuinely happy to see him nonetheless since he is pretty easygoing and very likeable.

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  Maybe he wanted to get your finger prints on the flyer which would be then reprinted as a JC invite and now they can prove that you held it and more than likely read it.

  Sneaky ones,...

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  Hayden Covington's unwitting role in harsh disfellowship policy

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the january 8, 1947 awake!

  magazine the following article appeared.. .

  the above article was published under the watchtower presidency of nathan knorr.

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  marked,

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  Where else to go.I sticking up for the WTS.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now i am going to do a rear thing here and i am going to stick up for the wts.

  i realise that the wts hasn't got the best of track record, and sure they have made mistakes.

  but if i was to go to another church wouldn't they still have the same issues.

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  Religion creates problems and then offers to sell you the answers to those problems.

  What person says " I have to be raped by someone, so I might as well choose the least ugly one"

  You don't have to submit to a rape at all, you just THINK you do.

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  CO talk at SAD appl. of 2 Thess. 1:8 & other mind control tactics

  by Kensho in

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  2. friends

  now that i am really "awake" at the assemblies i pay more attention to what the borg's traveling enforcers say and the talk he gave was some "new light" on 2 thess.

  1:8 (probably his opinion).

  paraphrased " there is a thinking that has crept in somehow in the minds of some brothers over the years that because jehovah is a merciful &loving god he will not destroy those who have not been reached with the good news in different parts of the world or my family or bible studies need just a little more time, well they need to read this script.. .

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  Ha,..

  Just thought about this,..

  Us anyone considered the current Jws that WILL be DFd while Jehovah extends brining on the big A?

  Someone being faithful for decades and now falls off the wagon waiting and now will be destroyed so some newbies can get in.

  talk about payback,..

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  My experience today

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  discussion with wife today led to her questioning whether i believe or not.

  i told her that i just can't roll over and accept everything new thing they say just like that.

  we were, of course, talking about the "new light".

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  I would ask if the beliefs the Jws have now concerning the Generation, FDS etc can EVER be changed again. If she says "no I can't promise that" then she is basically saying that what she believes NOW could be a wrong teaching, false teaching.

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